Beatles? Stones?

TimmyB · 01-14-2003, 01:04 PM

Okay, pw, here goes...

pathogan · 01-14-2003, 01:16 PM

...its apples and oranges for me,and i love both. the beatles were brilliant,yet their genius put a distance between themselves and others. The stones were the not nearly as talented kids who were smoking in the bathroom and always getting caught. Purely from a rocking point, the stones...

Skip · 01-14-2003, 01:17 PM

Hey ... I thought this thread was my suggestion.

My vote: Beatles the way things turned out. Stones, if the Beatles hadn't broken up. I think the Stones were relevant longer than the Beatles would have been ... even if they hadn't broken up they were over. The breakup gave them the "never again" cachet that Joplin, Hendrix, and numerous others have also benefited from.

I probably like more Beatles songs than Stones songs (though maybe not, maybe the Beatles just come to mind faster), but the Beatles are defined more by 'pop' and the Stones by 'rock', at least to me.

hmrsf · 01-14-2003, 01:25 PM

Unfair debate!

Apples and oranges is right!!! You forgot the choclate covered cherries of all time........Queen!

Queen then Stones or Beatles depending on the mood.

Skip · 01-14-2003, 01:27 PM

I like Queen at times hm, but over the Beatles, Stones, or .... :

TimmyB · 01-14-2003, 01:34 PM

Skip, I referred to pw for the omission in his thread that just screamed for an answer, then re-read the thread and saw your suggestion. So, this one's for you...

Funny, I think "Exile on Main Street" is the greatest rock album, period. The Beatles follow with, like, the next five. I have to give the nod to the lads from Liverpool. They absolutely defined their era, and the music the made (with the exception of "The Magical Mystery Tour") was nearly flawless and miles ahead of the rest.

Would they have run out of gas before the Stones? Well... they DID run out of gas. (That said, the Stones haven't broken any significant ground in a long, long time).

I'll buy the apple/orange thing, too. Still, they're the two bands most often mentioned in the same breath.

Now, hm, about Queen...

Skip · 01-14-2003, 01:46 PM

Ok, more succinctly:

Most influential pop OR rock-n-roll band: Beatles
Greatest rock-n-roll band: Stones

SmedIndy · 01-14-2003, 01:56 PM

Beatles worst record (besides Yellow Submarine) was "Let It Be", which is 1 1/2 miles better than "Satanic Majesty" or "Goat's Head Soup" or "Undercover" or "Steel Wheels".

Queen? Now, I'll admit I like "Sheer Heart Attack" (especially the first side) quite a bit, but some of the records devolve into pretentious goofiness just this side of Yes.

pwdennis · 01-14-2003, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skip
Ok, more succinctly:

Most influential pop OR rock-n-roll band: Beatles
Greatest rock-n-roll band: Stones

I would pick the Beatles as the most influential

My favorite rock n' roll band would be Creedence Clearwater Revival or Bruce Springsteen & The E Street band

Craig S. · 01-14-2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmedIndy
Beatles worst record (besides Yellow Submarine) was "Let It Be", which is 1 1/2 miles better than "Satanic Majesty" or "Goat's Head Soup" or "Undercover" or "Steel Wheels".

I agree completely with this comment. The Stones, even at their best, couldn't come close to touching the Beatles.

rcartman28 · 01-14-2003, 02:42 PM

The Beatles. Not even close. They were and still are light years beyond anyone else, although I doubt even they could have kept up at that level had they stayed together in the seventies and beyond.....

gyb13 · 01-14-2003, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skip
Greatest rock-n-roll band: Stones

definitely Led Zeppelin.

as for this poll, I'd take the Beatles for peak value, the Stones for career value.

Skip · 01-14-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pwdennis
I would pick the Beatles as the most influential

My favorite rock n' roll band would be Creedence Clearwater Revival or Bruce Springsteen & The E Street band

Favorite is different than 'greatest' or 'most influential'. I like both your favorite picks, but only Bruce of those has a chance of makings anyone's greatest or influential lists.

So now I've picked nits between favorite, greatest, and most influential. Have I killed this thread, or totally sidetracked it, or just added juice to the sauce?

Remember, the original topic is Beatles v. Stones folks.

Skip · 01-14-2003, 03:56 PM

P.S. (sidebar) If you look elsewhere you'll note I've changed my tune a bit since my list of 'greatest' on the 'Greatest American R&R band' thread includes CCR. Dad-gummit - it is hard to separate great from favorite from influential from ....

JamesI · 01-14-2003, 06:25 PM

Beatles.

View Poll Results: Okay, who is it? the Beatles or the Stones?
Beatles	11	84.62%
Rolling Stones	2	15.38%
Can't stand either	0	0%
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01-14-2003, 01:04 PM	#1
TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	Beatles? Stones? Okay, pw, here goes...

01-14-2003, 01:16 PM	#2
pathogan william Blake's Innkeeper Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,828	Stones ...its apples and oranges for me,and i love both. the beatles were brilliant,yet their genius put a distance between themselves and others. The stones were the not nearly as talented kids who were smoking in the bathroom and always getting caught. Purely from a rocking point, the stones...

01-14-2003, 01:25 PM	#4
hmrsf forum mom Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: relocation Posts: 4,298	Unfair debate! Apples and oranges is right!!! You forgot the choclate covered cherries of all time........Queen! Queen then Stones or Beatles depending on the mood. __________________ NDF who shares good karma! Get a coaster! My cup is not only 1/2 full it is brimming! We don't need no stinking Arods!

01-14-2003, 02:42 PM	#11
rcartman28 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hudson, WI Posts: 1,408	The Beatles. Not even close. They were and still are light years beyond anyone else, although I doubt even they could have kept up at that level had they stayed together in the seventies and beyond..... __________________ I would have looked out for the water main. But that's just me..... Brett Favre

01-14-2003, 01:17 PM	#3
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	Hey ... I thought this thread was my suggestion. My vote: Beatles the way things turned out. Stones, if the Beatles hadn't broken up. I think the Stones were relevant longer than the Beatles would have been ... even if they hadn't broken up they were over. The breakup gave them the "never again" cachet that Joplin, Hendrix, and numerous others have also benefited from. I probably like more Beatles songs than Stones songs (though maybe not, maybe the Beatles just come to mind faster), but the Beatles are defined more by 'pop' and the Stones by 'rock', at least to me.

01-14-2003, 01:27 PM	#5
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	I like Queen at times hm, but over the Beatles, Stones, or .... :

01-14-2003, 01:34 PM	#6
TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	Skip, I referred to pw for the omission in his thread that just screamed for an answer, then re-read the thread and saw your suggestion. So, this one's for you... Funny, I think "Exile on Main Street" is the greatest rock album, period. The Beatles follow with, like, the next five. I have to give the nod to the lads from Liverpool. They absolutely defined their era, and the music the made (with the exception of "The Magical Mystery Tour") was nearly flawless and miles ahead of the rest. Would they have run out of gas before the Stones? Well... they DID run out of gas. (That said, the Stones haven't broken any significant ground in a long, long time). I'll buy the apple/orange thing, too. Still, they're the two bands most often mentioned in the same breath. Now, hm, about Queen...

01-14-2003, 01:46 PM	#7
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	Ok, more succinctly: Most influential pop OR rock-n-roll band: Beatles Greatest rock-n-roll band: Stones

01-14-2003, 01:56 PM	#8
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	Beatles worst record (besides Yellow Submarine) was "Let It Be", which is 1 1/2 miles better than "Satanic Majesty" or "Goat's Head Soup" or "Undercover" or "Steel Wheels". Queen? Now, I'll admit I like "Sheer Heart Attack" (especially the first side) quite a bit, but some of the records devolve into pretentious goofiness just this side of Yes.

01-14-2003, 03:56 PM	#14
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	P.S. (sidebar) If you look elsewhere you'll note I've changed my tune a bit since my list of 'greatest' on the 'Greatest American R&R band' thread includes CCR. Dad-gummit - it is hard to separate great from favorite from influential from ....

01-14-2003, 06:25 PM	#15
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	Beatles.

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