American Dreams and Dynasties: American League 1964

Max Power · 11-28-2002, 08:45 AM

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Max Power · 11-28-2002, 08:51 AM

Great work Shawn.

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........sold 80% interest in the team to the CBS television network, amid allegations that the corporate influence would ruin the game and guarantee the Yankee dynasty in perpetuity.

Amazing, huh? 38 years ago, they feared this - - and, the next 14 years were some of the worst in Yankee history. And, IMHO, the jury is still out on this - - TBS has helped the Braves, but, WGN and FOX aren't exactly making powerhouses out of the Cubs and Dodgers...........

pwdennis · 11-28-2002, 12:13 PM

Good work. 1964 marked the first time the Yankees had lost consecutive World Series since 1921-1922, an amazing run considering the frequency with which the Yankees had appeared in the World Series.

I am not sure but it may be the first time that third basemen swept league MVP honors

rcartman28 · 12-02-2002, 12:21 PM

Wonderful reading. Nice touch to be able to include your birthday in the essay. I had no idea that Robin Roberts was still pitching effectively for the Orioles and had lost all memory of Dave Wickersham.

Amazing what neat stuff we learn from reading these. Thanks !!!

KCBOOMER · 12-02-2002, 01:44 PM

1964 was an unusual year. It stood as a transition year on several fronts. The change in Presidents was most profound. The Civil Rights movement was getting serious as more of the white majority at least understood that what they had been doing was wrong. Viet Nam was beginning to become a little more visible on the national radar screen. The U.S. continued to trail in the space race but was finally starting to show signs of getting on the ball. It also marked the end of the Yankee dynasty that had stood for forty plus years.

A very nice article.

Max Power · 12-02-2002, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by rcartman28
Amazing what neat stuff we learn from reading these.

Agreed.

TimmyB · 12-02-2002, 03:15 PM

Nice work.

This is one of those races that seems to get lost in the shuffle. Funny how there were so many "transitions" in and around '64.

gyb13 · 12-02-2002, 06:41 PM

good job shawn!

hmrsf · 12-03-2002, 10:34 PM

Wow! Thanks!You brought to life a season I have heard a 1000 x!
Old men love to retell various seasons for whatever reasons and this was one of them.

Seems like in this part of town everyone has an all Sox family and one Yank or all Yank family and Sox fan.......so strange.

SmedIndy · 12-04-2002, 11:12 AM

Good read! What a turbulent time.

Fatwater Fewl · 12-13-2002, 01:19 PM

Good job. I really like the harmonica anecdote as a snapshot of ballplayers as just these guys getting through another working day.

YankeeLinks · 12-13-2002, 01:49 PM

I really enjoyed it, Shaun. 1964 was the year I graduated from college and started law school, so a lot of these events had special meaning for me. It was great to relive them

11-28-2002, 08:45 AM	#1
Max Power NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: May 2002 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 5,548	American Dreams and Dynasties: American League 1964 To see sweaver's essay in the contest - - click HERE Please use this thread to discuss this essay only. Please do not start any other threads to discuss this essay. After you have read the essay, please use the RATE THIS THREAD feature at the bottom of THIS PAGE to rate THE ESSAY. Thanks to Shawn for being a part of this contest. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator "They come and they go, Hobbs. They come and they go." That's why there's NetShrine.com

11-28-2002, 12:13 PM	#3
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	Good work. 1964 marked the first time the Yankees had lost consecutive World Series since 1921-1922, an amazing run considering the frequency with which the Yankees had appeared in the World Series. I am not sure but it may be the first time that third basemen swept league MVP honors __________________ "I would submit that if the world survives for a million years, perhaps its finest hour may be that in the last half of the 20th century, when the power to blow up the world rested in the hands of a few men in two very unsophisticated and suspicious countries, we didn't do it, and one American, Richard Nixon, moved the cold war away from permanent confrontation toward victory. How could any wrong that he did compare with that?" - John Sears

12-02-2002, 12:21 PM	#4
rcartman28 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hudson, WI Posts: 1,408	Wonderful reading. Nice touch to be able to include your birthday in the essay. I had no idea that Robin Roberts was still pitching effectively for the Orioles and had lost all memory of Dave Wickersham. Amazing what neat stuff we learn from reading these. Thanks !!! __________________ I would have looked out for the water main. But that's just me..... Brett Favre

12-02-2002, 01:44 PM	#5
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	1964 was an unusual year. It stood as a transition year on several fronts. The change in Presidents was most profound. The Civil Rights movement was getting serious as more of the white majority at least understood that what they had been doing was wrong. Viet Nam was beginning to become a little more visible on the national radar screen. The U.S. continued to trail in the space race but was finally starting to show signs of getting on the ball. It also marked the end of the Yankee dynasty that had stood for forty plus years. A very nice article. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

12-02-2002, 06:41 PM	#8
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	good job shawn! __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

12-02-2002, 03:15 PM	#7
TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	Nice work. This is one of those races that seems to get lost in the shuffle. Funny how there were so many "transitions" in and around '64.

12-03-2002, 10:34 PM	#9
hmrsf forum mom Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: relocation Posts: 4,298	Wow! Thanks!You brought to life a season I have heard a 1000 x! Old men love to retell various seasons for whatever reasons and this was one of them. Seems like in this part of town everyone has an all Sox family and one Yank or all Yank family and Sox fan.......so strange. __________________ NDF who shares good karma! Get a coaster! My cup is not only 1/2 full it is brimming! We don't need no stinking Arods!

12-04-2002, 11:12 AM	#10
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	Good read! What a turbulent time.

12-13-2002, 01:19 PM	#11
Fatwater Fewl NetShrine MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlottetown, PEI Posts: 261	Good job. I really like the harmonica anecdote as a snapshot of ballplayers as just these guys getting through another working day.

12-13-2002, 01:49 PM	#12
YankeeLinks NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Home of 27 World Championships Posts: 2,862	I really enjoyed it, Shaun. 1964 was the year I graduated from college and started law school, so a lot of these events had special meaning for me. It was great to relive them

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