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Old 11-21-2002, 11:15 AM   #46
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I'd start C Rudy York 1938 and have Bill Freehan 1967 off the bench. I'd start 1B Norm Cash 1961 over Hank Greenberg 1938. Or maybe leave Fielder as the backup 1B and have Hank 1940 start in LF. I'd start 3B Eddie Yost 1959 and have Ray Boone 1956 off the bench. Heilmann as a DH is cheating, so I'd start him (1923 version) in RF, with backup OFs Rocky Colavito 1961, Al Kaline 1955, and Sam Crawford 1907. The DH would be John Grubb 1986.
On the pitchers, I may find place for Dizzy Trout 1944, Hank Aguirre 1962, Virgil Trucks 1949 (over Mclain, Fidrych, and Bridges). I'd take John Hiller 1973 (not 72) and Lopez 79 (not 84). Hogsett is good too, but why not George Uhle 1931.

Good discussion Gyb. I probably should have clarified the DH rules. If I have to take a Tiger DH I would take 1978 Rusty Staub (Le Grande Orange will be happy).

At second glance you might be right about Norm Cash. That would allow Greenberg to move to left. That RF position is stacked for the Tigers.

Lopez 1984 is a middle reliever. Hiller 73 is also a closer. I could move Hiller to the Closer role and drop Henneman and find another middle relief guy. The "Bird" is a sentimental choice because he is the one who got me interested in baseball.
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Okay, I know the Philadelphia Athletics are defunct, but what the heck!

C - Mickey Cochrane, 1930
1B - Jimmy Foxx, 1932
2B - Eddie Collins, 1914
3B - Frank Baker, 1912
SS - Chick Galloway, 1922
OF - Al Simmons, 1930
OF - Bob Johnson, 1934
OF - Walley Moses, 1937

SP - Lefty Grove, 1931
SP - Eddie Plank, 1912
SP - Chief Bender, 1910
SP - George Earnshaw, 1929

I apologize if I don't have one guy at each outfield spot. I haven't been able to find any breakdown on who played LF, who played CF and who played RF from those years. Since there was no DH during the existence of the Philadelphia A's (1901 - 1954), I won't choose one. Also, for the same reason, I'll go with a four-man starting rotation and no bullpen.
 
Old 11-22-2002, 11:22 AM   #49
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From baseball-reference.com:

In 1930, Al Simmons was a LF; 129 games there, 7 in CF.

Indian Bob Johnson was also a LF, in 1934.

Wally Moses, in 1937, was a RF.

Still short a center fielder.
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In 1930, Al Simmons was a LF; 129 games there, 7 in CF.

Indian Bob Johnson was also a LF, in 1934.

Wally Moses, in 1937, was a RF.

Still short a center fielder.


baseball-reference.com is soooooooo helpful in this exercise. It would allow just about any fan of any team to put a list together (hint, hint).
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And with that, here's an all-Expos season team...

C Gary Carter - 1984
1B Al "Scoops" Oliver - 1982
2B Jose Vidro - 2000
3B Tim Wallach - 1987
SS Wil Cordero - 1994
LF Tim Raines - 1987
CF Andre Dawson - 1981
RF Vlad Guerrero - 2002

C Darrin Fletcher - 1994
1B Andres Galarraga - 1988
OF Larry Walker - 1994
OF Le Grand Orange - 1969
SS Hubie Brooks - 1986
2B Ron Hunt - 1971
3B Larry Parrish - 1979

SP Pedro Martinez - 1997
SP Steve Rogers - 1982
SP Dennis Martinez - 1992
SP Javier Vazquez - 2001
SP Steve Renko - 1973

SW Jeff Fassero - 1993
LR Andy McGaffigan - 1987
SR Mike Marshall - 1973
SU Mel Rojas - 1993
CL Tim Burke - 1987
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Here is my attempt at the Pirates.

Catcher Jason Kendell - 1998
1st Willie Stargell - 1972
2nd Mazeroski- 1958
SS Wagner - 1901
3rd Pie Traynor - 1930
LF Ralph Kiner 1949
CF Brian Giles 2000
RF Roberto Clemente 1966

Bench

Arky Vaughn - 1935
Manny Sanguillen - 1971
Bill Madlock 1982
Paul Waner - 1927
Dave Parker - 1978
Rabbit Maranville - 1922

SP Ed Morris - 1886
SP Doug Drabek - 1990
SP Deacon Phillipe - 1903
SP Jack Chesbro - 1902
SP John Candelaria - 1977
SU Jeff Robinson -1988
SU Enrique Romo -1979
SU Ramon Hernandez - 1973
CL Kent Tekulve 1978
CL Roy Face 1959

Just a note I almost put Ted Kluszewski as a sub for 1958, not because he had a good year but with him, Parker and Stargell the team would have been safe if there was a bench clearing brawl.
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Here is my attempt at the Pirates.

SS Wagner - 1901
Arky Vaughn - 1935

Welcome rc3000... I think this is the first time we have crossed paths. Your Pirate team looks good. I have to believe that no one can come close to matching the Pirates in terms of SS greatness.
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In 1930, Al Simmons was a LF; 129 games there, 7 in CF.

Indian Bob Johnson was also a LF, in 1934.

Wally Moses, in 1937, was a RF.

Still short a center fielder.


Try Bing Miller, 1922. Lee's SBE is a big big big big big help.
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Here is my attempt at the Pirates.

Catcher Jason Kendell - 1998
1st Willie Stargell - 1972
2nd Mazeroski- 1958
SS Wagner - 1901
3rd Pie Traynor - 1930
LF Ralph Kiner 1949
CF Brian Giles 2000
RF Roberto Clemente 1966

Bench

Arky Vaughn - 1935
Manny Sanguillen - 1971
Bill Madlock 1982
Paul Waner - 1927
Dave Parker - 1978
Rabbit Maranville - 1922

SP Ed Morris - 1886
SP Doug Drabek - 1990
SP Deacon Phillipe - 1903
SP Jack Chesbro - 1902
SP John Candelaria - 1977
SU Jeff Robinson -1988
SU Enrique Romo -1979
SU Ramon Hernandez - 1973
CL Kent Tekulve 1978
CL Roy Face 1959

Just a note I almost put Ted Kluszewski as a sub for 1958, not because he had a good year but with him, Parker and Stargell the team would have been safe if there was a bench clearing brawl.


You still can, that gives you 25.
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Old 11-22-2002, 03:17 PM   #56
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In 1930, Al Simmons was a LF; 129 games there, 7 in CF.

Indian Bob Johnson was also a LF, in 1934.

Wally Moses, in 1937, was a RF.

Still short a center fielder.


Thanks, Sweaver! I would probably go with Simmons in LF for 1930, Bob Johnson in CF for 1938 and Wally Moses in RF for 1937. Looking up Baseball-Reference, I saw that Johnson did play CF in 1937. He also hit .313, .406 OBA, .552 SLG, 30 HR, 113 RBI and 114 R.
 
 


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