Zito Wins AL Cy Young - Page 2

JamesI · 11-07-2002, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by VNV Nation
how's Zito ahead of Lowe?

I have to concur. I still would give my vote to Lowe.

hmrsf · 11-07-2002, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by JamesI
I have to concur. I still would give my vote to Lowe.

They got this one about as right as they did the AL ROY

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James, you and I get it. Our teams need to deal. You have what baseball writers call runner up Cy for ROY runner up. Our GM need to talk.....when our teams can figure that out.

Duque · 11-08-2002, 12:38 AM

Anyone here Pedro's comments about the voters? I realize the guy had a legitimate shot, but this does not help his future cause, and only serves to reinforce the opinion of him as a major narcissist.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news/ap/...-martinez.html

moose · 11-08-2002, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by Duque
Anyone here Pedro's comments about the voters? I realize the guy had a legitimate shot, but this does not help his future cause, and only serves to reinforce the opinion of him as a major narcissist.

yikes. why bother congratulating zito if you're just gonna complain about not getting it? what would the "right" reasons have been?

Skip · 11-08-2002, 07:00 AM

"That's why I missed that last start, so I could get ready for next year. As I said, to make sure that what I got is going to be there next year and maybe better. And that is what my goal is.''

It's a darn shame to know that guys like Zito, Johnson, Schilling, Maddux, Glavine, Petitte, etc. aren't going to be ready for next year, given that they actually pitched through their last start and even beyond it this year.

hmrsf · 11-08-2002, 08:08 AM

Hold on, favorite Yankee fans......don't let those pinstripes blind you!

Pedro Martinez is highly intelligent. In his country he was given the choice of being a doctor or a pitcher. He chose to be a pitcher. Language and culture can sometimes be a barrier.

Sometimes we don't treat the best of times well. Note Bonds, Martinez, Ramirez, Williams, and Mantel.

I was not that pleased about Pedro missing his last start. As a ticket holder saying goodbye to my guys for the last time for a season, I felt cheated. Pedro has his reasons. He is not lazy......and in a strange way, not all that selfish.

IF, Martinez is traded, it is because of economic reasons not for any other reasons.

Max Power · 11-08-2002, 08:58 AM

hmrsf - - are there any red sox players that are not both highly intelligent and just misunderstood by the rest of the world outside of Fenway?

Skip · 11-08-2002, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by hmrsf
Pedro Martinez is highly intelligent. In his country he was given the choice of being a doctor or a pitcher.

I have this mental picture of Pedro in an interrogation room, fully equipped with one uncomfortable chair, mirrored walls, and extremely bright lights. ... "Ok Mr. Martinez, what will it be? Doctor or pitcher? DOCTOR OR PITCHER MR. MARTINEZ. Decide! DECIDE NOW. ... Get him out of here. Next."

moose · 11-08-2002, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by Skip
I have this mental picture of Pedro in an interrogation room, fully equipped with one uncomfortable chair, mirrored walls, and extremely bright lights. ... "Ok Mr. Martinez, what will it be? Doctor or pitcher? DOCTOR OR PITCHER MR. MARTINEZ. Decide! DECIDE NOW. ... Get him out of here. Next."

is the interrogator a small white mouse who speaks in baritone?

JamesI · 11-08-2002, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Skip
"That's why I missed that last start, so I could get ready for next year. As I said, to make sure that what I got is going to be there next year and maybe better. And that is what my goal is.''

It's a darn shame to know that guys like Zito, Johnson, Schilling, Maddux, Glavine, Petitte, etc. aren't going to be ready for next year, given that they actually pitched through their last start and even beyond it this year.

Well, Pedro should have an easy time winning next year, none of the competition will be ready when the season starts!

sweaver · 11-08-2002, 10:26 AM

I am not sure why "highly intelligent" and "major narcissist" are mutually exclusive. In fact, it is my experience that they often go together, especially in doctors.

Or top-notch baseball pitchers.

I would have voted for Zito. But the seasons were so close between Zito, Martinez, and Lowe that any of the three could have won, and I wouldn't have complained. I am only surprised that Lowe did not get more votes.

Skip · 11-08-2002, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by sweaver
I am not sure why "highly intelligent" and "major narcissist" are mutually exclusive. In fact, it is my experience that they often go together, especially in doctors.

In the interest of full disclosure, it must be noted that Sweaver is currently in the process of becoming a 'doctor'.

sweaver · 11-08-2002, 02:14 PM

So, obviously I know whereof I speak.

Duque · 11-08-2002, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Duque
Anyone here Pedro's comments about the voters?

Man, I mispelled "hear." Back to 3rd Grade English for me.

Btw - criticizing the writers may not be the best way to get yourself a future award.

Fuzzy Bear · 11-09-2002, 02:48 PM

I feel bad for Lowe. Of the three, he's the least likely to come this close again, though he may surprise me.

However, I still think that the best pitcher in all of baseball was Pedro Martinez, and he gets my vote (when they give me one).

11-08-2002, 12:38 AM	#18
Duque NetShrine's Desperado Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 2,638	Anyone here Pedro's comments about the voters? I realize the guy had a legitimate shot, but this does not help his future cause, and only serves to reinforce the opinion of him as a major narcissist. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news/ap/...-martinez.html __________________ Bad Andy It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

11-08-2002, 08:08 AM	#21
hmrsf forum mom Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: relocation Posts: 4,298	Hold on, favorite Yankee fans......don't let those pinstripes blind you! Pedro Martinez is highly intelligent. In his country he was given the choice of being a doctor or a pitcher. He chose to be a pitcher. Language and culture can sometimes be a barrier. Sometimes we don't treat the best of times well. Note Bonds, Martinez, Ramirez, Williams, and Mantel. I was not that pleased about Pedro missing his last start. As a ticket holder saying goodbye to my guys for the last time for a season, I felt cheated. Pedro has his reasons. He is not lazy......and in a strange way, not all that selfish. IF, Martinez is traded, it is because of economic reasons not for any other reasons. __________________ NDF who shares good karma! Get a coaster! My cup is not only 1/2 full it is brimming! We don't need no stinking Arods!

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Max Power NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: May 2002 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 5,548	hmrsf - - are there any red sox players that are not both highly intelligent and just misunderstood by the rest of the world outside of Fenway? __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator "They come and they go, Hobbs. They come and they go." That's why there's NetShrine.com

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Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	"That's why I missed that last start, so I could get ready for next year. As I said, to make sure that what I got is going to be there next year and maybe better. And that is what my goal is.'' It's a darn shame to know that guys like Zito, Johnson, Schilling, Maddux, Glavine, Petitte, etc. aren't going to be ready for next year, given that they actually pitched through their last start and even beyond it this year.

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sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	I am not sure why "highly intelligent" and "major narcissist" are mutually exclusive. In fact, it is my experience that they often go together, especially in doctors. Or top-notch baseball pitchers. I would have voted for Zito. But the seasons were so close between Zito, Martinez, and Lowe that any of the three could have won, and I wouldn't have complained. I am only surprised that Lowe did not get more votes.

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sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	So, obviously I know whereof I speak.

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Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	I feel bad for Lowe. Of the three, he's the least likely to come this close again, though he may surprise me. However, I still think that the best pitcher in all of baseball was Pedro Martinez, and he gets my vote (when they give me one).

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