Larry Walker to the DBacks

gyb13 · 11-05-2002, 06:32 PM

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...530%7E,00.html
The Rockies would be silly to trade their best player, I think (of course it depends on what they get in return), though they'd get out from about $50 mil they owe him...They're reportedly looking for upgrades at 3B, 2B, and C. Walker for Matt Williams?

I'd still hold out and try to dump payroll by getting rid of Hampton or Neagle...

JamesI · 11-05-2002, 07:09 PM

I think this is an ok move in Arizona if they don't give up too much. Not a good move in Colorodo though. Hold out, someone will take Hampton.

moose · 11-05-2002, 10:20 PM

this is the first deal in which i havent heard a philly involvement

...and i want one!

tortured angel · 11-06-2002, 02:43 AM

Why would anyone trade for the 10 million dollar a year DL fodder that used to be Matt Williams?

gyb13 · 11-06-2002, 10:47 AM

the better question is why would the rox consider doing such a thing? from UTK:

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I do think the Rockies are on the verge of making a bunch of moves, some almost panicky. Trading LARRY WALKER? Come on. Even as fragile as he is, he's great. I think they can get better without the panic with some smart free agent signings. I've heard about a couple that I would say are really smart.

sweaver · 11-06-2002, 10:50 AM

If the Rockies can obtain three good young players for him, similar to the Indians in the Colon trade, they have to consider it.

soxfan121 · 11-06-2002, 11:06 AM

If Matt Williams is involved, it's a bad deal. Period. No matter who else comes with him. Besides, the D'backs don't really have any prospects (do they?) to add to any deal. No, if it involves Williams, it is a salary dump - and I hate salary dumps.

SmedIndy · 11-06-2002, 03:12 PM

I don't think there's anyone tradable on Arizona. Perhaps using a third team could get this done.

gyb13 · 11-06-2002, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by SmedIndy
I don't think there's anyone tradable on Arizona.

there's always durazo...though i doubt COL would want another good-hit, no-field semi-OF to place next to Cust

SmedIndy · 11-06-2002, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by gyb13
there's always durazo...though i doubt COL would want another good-hit, no-field semi-OF to place next to Cust

With Helton AND Cust, there's no way to use Durazo. The Rockies need wheels to cover that OF.

gyb13 · 11-06-2002, 03:36 PM

i still say the rox are panicking if they trade larry

KCBOOMER · 11-06-2002, 03:36 PM

I could see the D'Backs wanting Walker if they turn a blindeye to his medical history. The only way the Rockies should do this is if they get quality prospects or if they can include Hampton or Neagle in the deal without having to pick another heavy salary in return. "We'll give you Walker but you gotta take Hampton with him."

gyb13 · 11-06-2002, 03:40 PM

AZ doesn't have the package to offer in return for Hampton/Walker. Or the money.

JamesI · 11-06-2002, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by gyb13
AZ doesn't have the package to offer in return for Hampton/Walker. Or the money.

since when does money matter in Az? All they do is spend and whine about losing money, yet they still spend it.

Fuzzy Bear · 11-06-2002, 06:14 PM

Walker for Matt Williams and whatever else would be a salary dump, however it is somewhat defensible. Williams' contract doesn't have a long to go, and his plate impatience would not hurt him as much at Coors. The reduced payroll would allow the Rox to plan rebuilding. The Rockies are a confused organization with no idea of how to build a team that can win in their unsusual environment. If they can lower their payroll, they may be able to start over and build an ORGANIZATION with a PHILOSOPHY on what it takes to win that is reflected in their play and their personnel moves.

Larry Walker could hit 100 HRs in Coors Field next year, and the Rox still won't go to the series, because of their other deficiencies.
They're a collection of talent. They have a long way to go to be a team.

11-05-2002, 06:32 PM	#1
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	Larry Walker to the DBacks http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...530%7E,00.html The Rockies would be silly to trade their best player, I think (of course it depends on what they get in return), though they'd get out from about $50 mil they owe him...They're reportedly looking for upgrades at 3B, 2B, and C. Walker for Matt Williams? I'd still hold out and try to dump payroll by getting rid of Hampton or Neagle... __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	i still say the rox are panicking if they trade larry __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	I could see the D'Backs wanting Walker if they turn a blindeye to his medical history. The only way the Rockies should do this is if they get quality prospects or if they can include Hampton or Neagle in the deal without having to pick another heavy salary in return. "We'll give you Walker but you gotta take Hampton with him." __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

11-06-2002, 03:40 PM	#13
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	AZ doesn't have the package to offer in return for Hampton/Walker. Or the money. __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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11-05-2002, 07:09 PM	#2
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I think this is an ok move in Arizona if they don't give up too much. Not a good move in Colorodo though. Hold out, someone will take Hampton.

11-05-2002, 10:20 PM	#3
moose Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Socs Posts: 3,400	this is the first deal in which i havent heard a philly involvement ...and i want one!

11-06-2002, 02:43 AM	#4
tortured angel Guest Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: middle east Posts: 573	Why would anyone trade for the 10 million dollar a year DL fodder that used to be Matt Williams?

11-06-2002, 10:50 AM	#6
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	If the Rockies can obtain three good young players for him, similar to the Indians in the Colon trade, they have to consider it.

11-06-2002, 11:06 AM	#7
soxfan121 Renounced Membership 7/9/03 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Live Free Or Die, USA Posts: 1,335	If Matt Williams is involved, it's a bad deal. Period. No matter who else comes with him. Besides, the D'backs don't really have any prospects (do they?) to add to any deal. No, if it involves Williams, it is a salary dump - and I hate salary dumps.

11-06-2002, 03:12 PM	#8
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	I don't think there's anyone tradable on Arizona. Perhaps using a third team could get this done.

11-06-2002, 06:14 PM	#15
Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	Walker for Matt Williams and whatever else would be a salary dump, however it is somewhat defensible. Williams' contract doesn't have a long to go, and his plate impatience would not hurt him as much at Coors. The reduced payroll would allow the Rox to plan rebuilding. The Rockies are a confused organization with no idea of how to build a team that can win in their unsusual environment. If they can lower their payroll, they may be able to start over and build an ORGANIZATION with a PHILOSOPHY on what it takes to win that is reflected in their play and their personnel moves. Larry Walker could hit 100 HRs in Coors Field next year, and the Rox still won't go to the series, because of their other deficiencies. They're a collection of talent. They have a long way to go to be a team.

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