All-time NFL defensive line

VNV Nation · 10-31-2002, 07:17 PM

this is a little difficult because it's hard to quantify the play of linemen. of course i'm going to be biased toward recent players because i saw them in action and because, well, they're 30 pounds heavier and probably still faster than linemen of 30 years ago.

LE Reggie White*
DT Joe Greene
DT Alan Page
RE Bruce Smith**

*Reggie could stop the run and could bring it from up the middle so you could shift him to DT and put someone like Too Tall Jones here.

**Charles Haley was one of the greatest pass rushers ever and one of the strongest players ever, pound-for-pound. He did play several seasons with his hand on the ground but I'd rather have him playing further off the edge as a weakside blitzer. but of course that position would have to be filled by LT.

moose · 10-31-2002, 08:09 PM

good choices. i liked gastineau. (giggle)

pwdennis · 10-31-2002, 09:33 PM

As a unit the original fearsome foursome was pretty good - Roosevelt Grier, Lamar Lundy, Merlin Olson & David "Deacon" Jones.

As individuals, without regard for position, I would pick David "Deacon" Jones, Junius "Buck" Buchanon, Reggie White, Alex " Twinketoes" Karras and "Mean" Joe Greene

TGwynn19 · 10-31-2002, 09:37 PM

Shouldn't Harvey Martin or Randy White enter into this conversation?

VNV Nation · 10-31-2002, 09:47 PM

they just did

rcartman28 · 11-01-2002, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by pwdennis
As a unit the original fearsome foursome was pretty good - Roosevelt Grier, Lamar Lundy, Merlin Olson & David "Deacon" Jones.

The Colts in the late 50s had a pretty decent front four, too,....Gino Marchetti, Art Donovan, Big Daddy Lipscomb, and uh, oops, I forget the fourth guy, maybe Don Joyce or somebody like that.....

Doug Atkins seems to be pretty legendary in this category, too....

pathogan · 11-01-2002, 12:38 PM

...Deacon Jones, Bob LILLY{!}, Joe Greene,Merlin Olsen[tremendous tackle],Buck Buchanon,doug Atkins,Randy white,Richard Dent was a helluva end...BUBBA Smith...Reggie white, of course HOWIE LONG a great tackle for many years[before he became a shill for everything}Carl eller,Claude Humphreys,...

poorme · 11-01-2002, 12:43 PM

well I don't know if he was top 5 all-time, but Dan Hampton was the second best lineman I saw (of the guys I saw enough of to judge). Reggie White was the best.

KCBOOMER · 11-01-2002, 12:44 PM

Simply too many guys to choose from and there is no objective data to separate a defensive lineman from his teammates.

10-31-2002, 07:17 PM	#1
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	All-time NFL defensive line this is a little difficult because it's hard to quantify the play of linemen. of course i'm going to be biased toward recent players because i saw them in action and because, well, they're 30 pounds heavier and probably still faster than linemen of 30 years ago. LE Reggie White* DT Joe Greene DT Alan Page RE Bruce Smith** Reggie could stop the run and could bring it from up the middle so you could shift him to DT and put someone like Too Tall Jones here. *Charles Haley was one of the greatest pass rushers ever and one of the strongest players ever, pound-for-pound. He did play several seasons with his hand on the ground but I'd rather have him playing further off the edge as a weakside blitzer. but of course that position would have to be filled by LT.

10-31-2002, 09:33 PM	#3
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	As a unit the original fearsome foursome was pretty good - Roosevelt Grier, Lamar Lundy, Merlin Olson & David "Deacon" Jones. As individuals, without regard for position, I would pick David "Deacon" Jones, Junius "Buck" Buchanon, Reggie White, Alex " Twinketoes" Karras and "Mean" Joe Greene __________________ "I would submit that if the world survives for a million years, perhaps its finest hour may be that in the last half of the 20th century, when the power to blow up the world rested in the hands of a few men in two very unsophisticated and suspicious countries, we didn't do it, and one American, Richard Nixon, moved the cold war away from permanent confrontation toward victory. How could any wrong that he did compare with that?" - John Sears

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pathogan william Blake's Innkeeper Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,828	Alan page... ...Deacon Jones, Bob LILLY{!}, Joe Greene,Merlin Olsen[tremendous tackle],Buck Buchanon,doug Atkins,Randy white,Richard Dent was a helluva end...BUBBA Smith...Reggie white, of course HOWIE LONG a great tackle for many years[before he became a shill for everything}Carl eller,Claude Humphreys,...

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KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Simply too many guys to choose from and there is no objective data to separate a defensive lineman from his teammates. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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moose Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Socs Posts: 3,400	good choices. i liked gastineau. (giggle)

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TGwynn19 Guest Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,087	Shouldn't Harvey Martin or Randy White enter into this conversation?

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VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	they just did

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poorme Guest Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,625	well I don't know if he was top 5 all-time, but Dan Hampton was the second best lineman I saw (of the guys I saw enough of to judge). Reggie White was the best.

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