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AL Remains dominant in World Series play
The Anaheim victory in the 2002 World Series gives the AL a 58-40 edge in World Series championship rings
BY Decade 1903-1909 AL 2 NL 4 1910-1919 AL 8 NL 2 1920-1929 AL 6 NL 4 1930-1939 AL 7 NL 3 1940-1949 AL 6 NL 4 1950-1959 AL 6 NL 4 1960-1969 AL 4 NL 6 1970-1979 AL 6 NL 4 1980-1989 AL 5 NL 5 1990-1999 AL 6 NL 3 2000-2002 AL 2 NL 1 As you will note the AL dominance begins before the first Yankee championship and runs through to today. In the post-expansion era (1961-2002) the AL leads 23-18 In the post-integration era (1947-2002) the AL leads 32-23
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10-29-2002, 08:56 AM
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I'm not sure what that proves, but I like it!
And hopefully it lays to rest this ridiculous notion that AL teams are at a disadvantage in Series play because of the No-DH rule, unless you believe that the AL should rightfully hold a 65-33 advantage or something (which I may - not sure yet  ). |
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10-29-2002, 09:28 AM
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I think it proves that the Yankees are in the AL.
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10-29-2002, 09:29 AM
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Other than some sort of lame-o comment like "Take away the NYY and the Cardinals and both leagues are about dead even," I can't come up with any justification or rationalization. Help out you NL fans!!
Of course this really is going to de-volve into another discussion on all things Yankee.  |
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10-29-2002, 09:36 AM
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Aw - skip - I was trying to devolve it into a conversation about the DH, not the NY's!
I would have to check stats on this - but assuming the average AL pitcher creates 0 runs over the 10-12 at bats that they have in a 4 game series - how many runs does the average NL pitcher create over 10-12 at bats? My guess is that it's so minimal as to be almost zero. I don't think there's a reason that the AL is winning more. Better organizations overall would be my guess. |
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10-29-2002, 09:45 AM
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I don't think the DH is a huge factor in the average series. Most NL teams have someone who can hit a little to play DH, and on most good AL teams the DH is not one of their best hitters or can at least play 1b or corner outfield.
What your stats say to me is Yankees are AL. |
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10-29-2002, 09:49 AM
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This year, having the DH in the AL park was a bigger problem for the NL, because the Giants had exactly NO bats to put in that spot. And lost 3 of 4 in Anaheim, at least partly because of that.
On the larger level? Well, the DH has only been used in the Series periodically since 1976, so I don't think that's it. It's just the most successful franchise in history is in the AL. |
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10-29-2002, 10:12 AM
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Uh, yeah....my thoughts, too.
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10-29-2002, 10:22 AM
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I disagree on the Yankees thing. I know they've been there a lot - BUT - once you make it to the series, really it's a 50/50 shot, no?
I guess what I mean is - if the Yankees have 40 AL championships (I don't know the exact number) - that's a tribute to their organizational strength. But once you get to a short series, the dominance SHOULD be muted, no? |
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10-29-2002, 11:03 AM
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The Yankees had by far the best teams in baseball in those eras. It probably wasn't a straight 50--50 shot for the NL to beat them because the talent wasn't to the Yankees' level. |
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10-29-2002, 11:23 AM
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Agreed - often the second best team in baseball finished second to the Yankees in the AL It should be noted that the Yankees are 26-12 in the World Series, meaning that the rest of the AL is 32-28 against the NL
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10-29-2002, 11:35 AM
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I started to do some research to back up my point that it's not the Yankees (I was going to prove that the second best team from the AL would have wone nearly as many of the World Series as did the Yankees... but... it turns out that not only is that statement wrong - it's unbelieveably, embarrassingly wrong).
It is the Yankees. So... um... nevermind. |
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10-29-2002, 12:15 PM
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Actually, more to the point, it's unknowable. There have been many seasons in which a particular NL team also was much better than its counterparts. That's actually the bad part about the current playoff set-up. There are years where the best team(s) doesn't make it to the World Series
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10-29-2002, 12:17 PM
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Well.. I was at least trying to prove that the teams the Yankees produced were superior to he other AL teams, but only marginally so. But the proof as I started seemed to be that the Yankees were in may cases MUCH better than the next best AL team, so I gave up, and gave in.
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10-29-2002, 12:42 PM
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Gee another not too subtle Yankee
...thread...zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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