HWCNBN on Plate Discipline

KCBOOMER · 10-15-2002, 09:33 AM

Check out HWCNBN's comments on Barry Bonds and Plate discipline.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ne...21014wiq.shtml

rcartman28 · 10-15-2002, 09:47 AM

gyb13 · 10-15-2002, 10:42 AM

awww, poor HWCBN.....

JamesI · 10-15-2002, 10:43 AM

I think HWCBN has proven he's just an idiot keeping his job due to past performance.

WiredTiger · 10-15-2002, 10:52 AM

As much as HWCNBN doesn't get, Dusty Baker gets it.

Skip · 10-15-2002, 12:06 PM

Ok guys - it's HWCBN, not HWCNBN. Cannot is one word. Smed'll give you an honorific of your own if you 'cannot' keep his lexicon straight.

nyyfanfrombirth · 10-15-2002, 12:08 PM

JamesI, I had the exact same thoughts. What is going on in that brain of his?

Dusty's comments were great. I loved the one about the confrontation. "We're not out here playing jacks. Know what I'm saying?"

Fatwater Fewl · 10-15-2002, 12:14 PM

If you can hear a rattling sound, that's me rapidly shaking my head, trying to clear it....

Look, Smed, HWCBN doesn't think BB's and HR's are scientific ball, either.

sweaver · 10-15-2002, 12:52 PM

Remember, 50% or more of what LaRussa says is designed to get inside someone's head. Mind games are what he does. Those "plate discipline" comments were an attempt to get inside Bonds' head. Obviously, it didn't work.

Duque · 10-15-2002, 12:55 PM

Yeah - lest we forget, he has a law degree!

VNV Nation · 10-15-2002, 12:59 PM

HWCBN might have been right about this two years ago, when pitchers actually made an attempt to get the ball near the plate. But at this point there's not much chance of Bonds getting anything close to hittable in a key moment. It's not like he goes up there looking for a walk.

b-ball-lunachik · 10-15-2002, 01:01 PM

i don't even get the question -- why ask who he'd want in 22-year old versions of bonds, musial or williams -- bonds wasn't near the player at 22 he is now...maybe I'm stupid, but I think the question is stupid.

I like Dusty - no one gets in my head but my daddy...didn't his dad throw him off two teams when he was young?

moose · 10-15-2002, 01:13 PM

bonds and williams are/were not nearly the hitters that a free swinger like rob deer is. talk about an expanded zone.

SmedIndy · 10-15-2002, 01:43 PM

I still don't think there's any reasoning to expanding the zone you're comfortable with so you can make more outs.

10-15-2002, 02:29 PM

I've got a feeling that all LaRussa wanted was for the thought to cross Barry's mind that he took too many pitches.

He's not THAT stupid.

Is he?

10-15-2002, 09:33 AM	#1
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	HWCNBN on Plate Discipline Check out HWCNBN's comments on Barry Bonds and Plate discipline. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ne...21014wiq.shtml __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

10-15-2002, 09:47 AM	#2
rcartman28 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hudson, WI Posts: 1,408	__________________ I would have looked out for the water main. But that's just me..... Brett Favre

10-15-2002, 10:42 AM	#3
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	awww, poor HWCBN..... __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

10-15-2002, 12:08 PM	#7
nyyfanfrombirth All-NetShrine Team Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 340	JamesI, I had the exact same thoughts. What is going on in that brain of his? Dusty's comments were great. I loved the one about the confrontation. "We're not out here playing jacks. Know what I'm saying?" __________________ "Gazizza."

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Duque NetShrine's Desperado Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 2,638	Yeah - lest we forget, he has a law degree! __________________ Bad Andy It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

10-15-2002, 10:43 AM	#4
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I think HWCBN has proven he's just an idiot keeping his job due to past performance.

10-15-2002, 10:52 AM	#5
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	As much as HWCNBN doesn't get, Dusty Baker gets it.

10-15-2002, 12:06 PM	#6
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	Ok guys - it's HWCBN, not HWCNBN. Cannot is one word. Smed'll give you an honorific of your own if you 'cannot' keep his lexicon straight.

10-15-2002, 12:14 PM	#8
Fatwater Fewl NetShrine MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlottetown, PEI Posts: 261	If you can hear a rattling sound, that's me rapidly shaking my head, trying to clear it.... Look, Smed, HWCBN doesn't think BB's and HR's are scientific ball, either.

10-15-2002, 12:52 PM	#9
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Remember, 50% or more of what LaRussa says is designed to get inside someone's head. Mind games are what he does. Those "plate discipline" comments were an attempt to get inside Bonds' head. Obviously, it didn't work.

10-15-2002, 12:59 PM	#11
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	HWCBN might have been right about this two years ago, when pitchers actually made an attempt to get the ball near the plate. But at this point there's not much chance of Bonds getting anything close to hittable in a key moment. It's not like he goes up there looking for a walk.

10-15-2002, 01:01 PM	#12
b-ball-lunachik Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: May 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 867	i don't even get the question -- why ask who he'd want in 22-year old versions of bonds, musial or williams -- bonds wasn't near the player at 22 he is now...maybe I'm stupid, but I think the question is stupid. I like Dusty - no one gets in my head but my daddy...didn't his dad throw him off two teams when he was young? __________________ b-ball or luna...

10-15-2002, 01:13 PM	#13
moose Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Socs Posts: 3,400	bonds and williams are/were not nearly the hitters that a free swinger like rob deer is. talk about an expanded zone.

10-15-2002, 01:43 PM	#14
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	I still don't think there's any reasoning to expanding the zone you're comfortable with so you can make more outs.

10-15-2002, 02:29 PM	#15
CpUltravox Posts: n/a	I've got a feeling that all LaRussa wanted was for the thought to cross Barry's mind that he took too many pitches. He's not THAT stupid. Is he?

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