interesting cubs-rangers rumor - Page 2

10-11-2002, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by SmedIndy
Personally, I'd rather have CP, since they could stick Bellhorn at 3B. And perhaps with a manager that ENCOURAGES plate discpline, CP would be better.

Perhaps I could hit the lottery....

You're not going to hit the lottery, and I'm as good as I'm going to get.

Is this the same Hank Blalock who looked, coming into this year, like he may be the next Mike Schmidt? Who if, given a chance to play, is a can't miss?

For Corey Patterson?

I'd make the deal if they demanded that I take Everett, Gonzalez, AND Rocker.

KCBOOMER · 10-11-2002, 11:47 AM

Alou/Patterson for Blalock/Everett is fine if you believe that Blalock is really going to make. Just tell Everett to not bother reporting.

As for Gonzalez, you must be kidding. The guy has spent his career on the DL and if he stayed healthy Gonzo and Sosa in the outfield sounds pretty ugly. Particlarly if you unload Patterson.

10-11-2002, 11:59 AM

You want to talk about fun? Imagine watching a Gonzalez/Everett/Sosa outfield in Colorado.

Watch Larry Walker Leg out inside the park shots... Watch Juan Pierre get kicked out of the game because he rounded the bases twice on a grounder in the gap, and wanted credit for 2 runs...

Seriously though... What's happened to Blalock that made him go from "World's Best Prospect" to "Insulted you would consider his future even as bright as Patterson?"

gyb13 · 10-11-2002, 12:23 PM

or it could be Alou/Patterson for Juan/Blalock, in which case it would be a trade of potential superstar + oft-injured OF

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Originally posted by SmedIndy
I'm going to seriously consider Betty Ford....

is that moose's new nickname, now that he's come out of the closet?

moose · 10-11-2002, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by gyb13
or it could be Alou/Patterson for Juan/Blalock, in which case it would be a trade of potential superstar + oft-injured OF

is that moose's new nickname, now that he's come out of the closet?

i have? sweet, i'm going after mike piazza!

gyb13 · 10-11-2002, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by moose
i have? sweet, i'm going after mike piazza!

http://www.netshrine.com/vbulletin2/...0678#post90678

VNV Nation · 10-11-2002, 01:39 PM

blalock looked like puke.

SmedIndy · 10-11-2002, 03:24 PM

I haven't seen Blalock play - I HAVE seen Patterson.

I'd rather have a CF than a 3B. And the Cubs have an awful track record with overhyped third basemen.

10-11-2002, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by VNV Nation
blalock looked like puke.

Blalock played like puke. Karkovice looked... oh.. never mind.

He only played a few weeks! Chavez looked terrible when he first came up too!

gyb13 · 10-11-2002, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by CpUltravox
He only played a few weeks! Chavez looked terrible when he first came up too!

6 wks to start the season (602 OPS), then the month of september (695 OPS)...

VNV Nation · 10-11-2002, 06:51 PM

I'm sorry, I must have missed the boat on Blalock. Someone fill me in on why he's a hot prospect.

His AAA stats make him look like the next Placido Polanco or something. Now, I like Placido Polanco as a super-utility infielder (Mark McLemore, Craig Counsell type) but he's not someone to build around. The guy hit .307 with 8 homers in 387 at-bats at Oklahoma. Worse yet, he didn't walk much, and as everyone knows, if you don't walk a lot, you're not worth squat, because even if you hit .290 and make the All-Star team or hit 39 homers, you're just going to fall apart when pitchers stop pitching to you.

Blalock was far from the best hitter on his team, the best was probably Todd Greene (.325, .585 slugging).

cubfan33 · 10-12-2002, 09:07 AM

And while I certainly think Blalock can be a solid player, he's been passed like a Ferrari around a Yugo by Mark Teixeira. Buck is evidently all but giving the starting 3B job to "Tesh".

10-12-2002, 02:11 PM

If I'm the Rangers, I send Gonzo, Everett and Blalock for Bobby Hill, Juan Cruz, Corey Patterson and Jon Lieber instead. Send huge chunks of payroll to the Tribune Co. and load up on potential fixtures at CF, 2B and SP. Definately try to get Cruz thrown in on the deal.

VNV Nation · 10-12-2002, 02:35 PM

why not get Sosa and Prior thrown in.

10-12-2002, 09:27 PM

I think the cubs would need a PTBNL for Sosa to be thrown in.

10-11-2002, 11:47 AM	#17
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Alou/Patterson for Blalock/Everett is fine if you believe that Blalock is really going to make. Just tell Everett to not bother reporting. As for Gonzalez, you must be kidding. The guy has spent his career on the DL and if he stayed healthy Gonzo and Sosa in the outfield sounds pretty ugly. Particlarly if you unload Patterson. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

10-12-2002, 09:07 AM	#27
cubfan33 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,359	Blalock And while I certainly think Blalock can be a solid player, he's been passed like a Ferrari around a Yugo by Mark Teixeira. Buck is evidently all but giving the starting 3B job to "Tesh". __________________ UTK available only at www.baseballprospectus.com "I was pulling for Pete and agreeing with (commissioner) Bud Selig that Pete should be eligible for the Hall of Fame," said Giles, now chairman of the Phillies. "Bud was close to making him eligible right after his meeting with Pete (November 2002). Right after that, Pete got into tax trouble (in California), and that delayed the process." - Phillies Chairman Bill Giles in the Dayton Daily News, January 25th, 2004.

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10-11-2002, 11:59 AM	#18
CpUltravox Posts: n/a	You want to talk about fun? Imagine watching a Gonzalez/Everett/Sosa outfield in Colorado. Watch Larry Walker Leg out inside the park shots... Watch Juan Pierre get kicked out of the game because he rounded the bases twice on a grounder in the gap, and wanted credit for 2 runs... Seriously though... What's happened to Blalock that made him go from "World's Best Prospect" to "Insulted you would consider his future even as bright as Patterson?"

10-11-2002, 01:39 PM	#22
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	blalock looked like puke.

10-11-2002, 03:24 PM	#23
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	I haven't seen Blalock play - I HAVE seen Patterson. I'd rather have a CF than a 3B. And the Cubs have an awful track record with overhyped third basemen.

10-11-2002, 06:51 PM	#26
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	I'm sorry, I must have missed the boat on Blalock. Someone fill me in on why he's a hot prospect. His AAA stats make him look like the next Placido Polanco or something. Now, I like Placido Polanco as a super-utility infielder (Mark McLemore, Craig Counsell type) but he's not someone to build around. The guy hit .307 with 8 homers in 387 at-bats at Oklahoma. Worse yet, he didn't walk much, and as everyone knows, if you don't walk a lot, you're not worth squat, because even if you hit .290 and make the All-Star team or hit 39 homers, you're just going to fall apart when pitchers stop pitching to you. Blalock was far from the best hitter on his team, the best was probably Todd Greene (.325, .585 slugging).

10-12-2002, 02:11 PM	#28
BigKlu Posts: n/a	If I'm the Rangers, I send Gonzo, Everett and Blalock for Bobby Hill, Juan Cruz, Corey Patterson and Jon Lieber instead. Send huge chunks of payroll to the Tribune Co. and load up on potential fixtures at CF, 2B and SP. Definately try to get Cruz thrown in on the deal.

10-12-2002, 02:35 PM	#29
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	why not get Sosa and Prior thrown in.

10-12-2002, 09:27 PM	#30
CpUltravox Posts: n/a	I think the cubs would need a PTBNL for Sosa to be thrown in.

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