NetShrine Discussion Forum  

Go Back   NetShrine Discussion Forum > NDF Archives > NDF's 2nd Year - 2002 > 2002 If You Must Archives
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-27-2002, 12:21 PM   #1
Craig S.
Guest
 
Craig S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6,330
Send a message via Yahoo to Craig S.
Default It's hockey season - does anyone care?

I love the NHL, and I love hockey, but I know that its TV ratings are abysmal. Is it simply that it doesn't translate well to television (small puck, speed of the game), or is it that people just don't care about the game? I don't know how anyone can't love the sound of blades on ice, or the smell of freshly cleaned ice, but that's probably from spending countless hours in arenas as a kid.

I always hear references to the "4 major leagues," but I wonder if hockey even merits inclusion on that list anymore. Really, it could probably be replaced by NASCAR without too many people caring. I have several friends who weren't big on the sport until I took them to games. Live, you can really appreciate the speed, skill, and the "bigger picture", in that you can see the whole ice to gain an appreciation of the constant flow.

I've got my Center Ice package ordered, and I can't wait for the season to start. I'm just wondering - do you think it will ever gain more of a foothold in the national consciousness than it now has?
Craig S. is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 12:29 PM   #2
SmedIndy
NetShrine's Historian
 
SmedIndy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Zionsville, IN
Posts: 10,569
Send a message via AIM to SmedIndy
Default

Hockey will never be more than a niche sport - although it deserves better.

It is the 4th major - and deserves to be noted - but in non NHL markets no one cares, and that's the big problem.
SmedIndy is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 12:30 PM   #3
KCBOOMER
NetShrine All-Century Team
 
KCBOOMER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Home of the T-Bones
Posts: 11,116
Default

No.
__________________
KCBOOMER

Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball
KCBOOMER is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 12:49 PM   #4
spitball
Guest
 
spitball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Studio City, Ca.
Posts: 1,751
Default

Hockey is just flat out exciting in person. But it's at LEAST 75% less exciting on TV if you don't follow the sport regularly.
Through my wife's work we used to get killer seats behind the visitors penalty box for Kings games at the Forum. What a thrill to hear the players going at it and seeing the action in person you get a better idea how fast these guys are skating .
On one of our first "dates" my wife was over at the house watching the Kings play....I forget. Anyway the Kings scored a game winning goal in overtime.
My wife went flying over the coffee table, sliding on her knees and yelling, "YESSSSSS!!!!".
That made me like hockey alot. And Her!!!!
spitball is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 12:52 PM   #5
moose
 
moose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Socs
Posts: 3,400
Default

i dont follow hockey that closely. that is, i love the rangers, and enjoy watching them play, but i dont scrutinize it like i do mlb, and to a lesser extent NFL.

that said, i LOVE watching hockey, on TV or in person. really exciting game, always moving, very physical (but not the fighting, that's stupid).

i'm a big fan of actually watching hockey! (and lax)
moose is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 12:54 PM   #6
rcartman28
NetShrine All-Century Team
 
rcartman28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Hudson, WI
Posts: 1,408
Send a message via Yahoo to rcartman28
Default

Hockey is much, much better watched in person than on television. As for the NHL, I lost almost all of my interest when the North Stars moved from here to Dallas. They've been replaced here by the Wild and are very popular here in St. Paul, but I just cannot get the least bit excited about them. Plus, ticket prices more than doubled when they came here. The same thing would have happened to me about MLB had the Twins been contracted. The only games I will watch in person this season are some of the games of the Wisconsin-River Falls women's team because I work with two of the members of that team at Target.....
__________________
I would have looked out for the water main. But that's just me.....

Brett Favre
rcartman28 is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 12:59 PM   #7
Skip
NetShrine Vagabond
 
Skip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville
Posts: 7,866
Default

I enjoy hockey in person too, but dont follow it at all otherwise other than during the playoffs. I went to many games in Cincy as a kid when they had a AHL/WHL/??? team. We've had a number of minor league teams here, but they've all folded after a few years. The most recent was the (equivalent of) AAA team for the Florida Panthers; they shut down after the 2000-1 season and the primary owner skipped town leaving a lot of bills and broken promises behind.
Skip is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 01:17 PM   #8
pathogan
william Blake's Innkeeper
 
pathogan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 2,828
Talking I Love Hockey

...I really dont get why it isnt bigger, these guys are incredibly skilled and tough! No athletes are tougher then hocky players,cetainly not in the "major 4." It certainly plays better on Tv than Baseball, or football[unless you are watching game films, the angle of football is too scoped}I do not understand why it's not more popular?I ask myself the same questions about Jazz. Makes no sense...
pathogan is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 01:31 PM   #9
tortured angel
Guest
 
tortured angel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: middle east
Posts: 573
Default

Hockey is my savior between November and April. Football is only on weekends and I can't get excited about basketball anymore. I think the biggest issue with watching on tv is the breaks between periods. Too much time to channel surf.
tortured angel is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 02:20 PM   #10
Craig S.
Guest
 
Craig S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6,330
Send a message via Yahoo to Craig S.
Default

From what I've seen on here, it looks like most people agree that a lot hockey's lack of popularity is due to how badly it plays on TV as compared to in-person. I agree, but of course I'll continue to watch games every night.

I've got the fever so bad right now that I went out late Wednesday night to watch a scrimmage involving a woman's team my wife plays on. Please, God, let Cincinnati get an NHL team.
Craig S. is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 02:35 PM   #11
TGwynn19
Guest
 
TGwynn19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 2,087
Send a message via AIM to TGwynn19
Default

I am a fan of live hockey. We have a minor league team here and it is fun to go to those games.

I simply cannot understand why hockey players cannot stay on the ice for more than 3 minuets at a time.
TGwynn19 is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 02:37 PM   #12
Skip
NetShrine Vagabond
 
Skip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville
Posts: 7,866
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by TGwynn19
I simply cannot understand why hockey players cannot stay on the ice for more than 3 minuets at a time.
Imagine how ice dancers feel! <read quote again slowly>
Skip is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 02:44 PM   #13
TGwynn19
Guest
 
TGwynn19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 2,087
Send a message via AIM to TGwynn19
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Skip
Imagine how ice dancers feel! <read quote again slowly>



I spelled that word 5 different ways and still could not get it right.

I had 180 seconds typed in once.....should have left it in!
TGwynn19 is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 03:18 PM   #14
NCFella19
All-NetShrine Team Member
 
NCFella19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Greensboro, NC
Posts: 417
Send a message via Yahoo to NCFella19
Default

I will watch it..........live.

I'll catch a game or two over in Raleigh for the defending Eastern Conference champs, but I'll really watch more of a boatload here in Greensboro for ECHL minor league games. Many more opportunities to get great seats behind the bench for under $20 here than what that same money will get you at an NHL game.

But I won't get all stat-crazy or salivate when it's on TV or anything. It's MUCH more of a live-action sport.

Pardon the following
Quote:
Originally posted by rcartman28
...because I work with two of the members of that team at Target.
Ahhh, a fellow Targeteer! T1078.RX is my home away from home, RC!

We now resume your regularly scheduled topic of "It's hockey season -- does anyone care?" below.
__________________
"It's not the high price of stardom that bothers me, it's the high price of mediocrity." -- Bill Veeck
NCFella19 is offline  
Old 09-27-2002, 03:30 PM   #15
Craig S.
Guest
 
Craig S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6,330
Send a message via Yahoo to Craig S.
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by TGwynn19
I am a fan of live hockey. We have a minor league team here and it is fun to go to those games.

I simply cannot understand why hockey players cannot stay on the ice for more than 3 minuets at a time.



Have you ever played? I can tell you that, for a forward, 90 seconds without a whistle will usually leave you needing a breather. Skating takes a lot out of you, especially if you're changing direction, or starting and stopping. Once you pick and speed and start coasting, it's not so bad, but you don't much chance to do that in a game. Defenesemen have it somewhat easier, since they can "stay at home" a little more.

Players can certainly stay on for longer periods of time, but you really do lose your effectiveness. It's like doing sprints, then taking a break.
Craig S. is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
All-time Team Teams Season #2!!!! BravesWin! 2003 Seventh Inning Stretch Archives 14 06-08-2003 12:12 PM
ATM report--Brown may miss the first week of the season nyy26wc Around The Majors Reports 14 03-15-2002 02:53 PM
ATM report--Dave Martinez is out for the season, maybe forever nyy26wc Around The Majors Reports 6 02-22-2002 02:09 PM
Seattle M's Set Season Win Record NetShrine 2001 Hot Baseball Chatter Archives 27 10-14-2001 02:07 PM
Around the majors reports--Aug 1 nyy26wc Around The Majors Reports 11 08-01-2001 10:33 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Thread Contents Copyrighted In Perpetuity by NetShrine.com