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Ytown Tribe fan · 09-19-2002, 08:19 AM

Maybe the most significant single-season record around, as far as offensive impact, is the much-unheralded "times-on-base" record.

In 1923, Babe Ruth got on base 379 times. Only three players have been on base more than 350 times in a season (The Babe did it twice, along with Sliding Billy Hamilton and Ted Williams).

Barry has a chance this year.

The more I think about it, the more significant this record seems: you have to have a high OBA, which is the single most important offensive indicator, plus you have to be in the lineup every day.

moose · 09-19-2002, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by Ytown Tribe fan
Barry has a chance this year.

The more I think about it, the more significant this record seems: you have to have a high OBA, which is the single most important offensive indicator, plus you have to be in the lineup every day.

well, unless barry does it in the next 2 games, he'll have the benefit of up to 8 games the bambino didnt...

SmedIndy · 09-19-2002, 09:14 AM

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well, unless barry does it in the next 2 games, he'll have the benefit of up to 8 games the bambino didnt...

Who are you? Ford Frick?

Bonds has played in 135 games this year, according to ESPN.

Ytown Tribe fan · 09-19-2002, 11:05 AM

Barry has no shot at 379 or 380 times on base this season; I meant he has a shot at 350, which would put him in pretty elite company. Er, I mean *350.

KCBOOMER · 09-19-2002, 11:19 AM

Being on base 350+ times is a monster season as indicated by how rarely it has been done.

Skip · 09-19-2002, 11:23 AM

What is "times on base"? I assume hits + walks + HBP, but do errors and fielders choices count? Even if they dont, I think Bonds is better than 50-50 to get to 350 this year.

I'd never really paid any attention to this stat before.

pathogan · 09-19-2002, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Skip
What is "times on base"? I assume hits + walks + HBP, but do errors and fielders choices count? Even if they dont, I think Bonds is better than 50-50 to get to 350 this year.

I'd never really paid any attention to this stat before.

it is interesting, and another point to add to what an astonishing player Mr Bonds is

Ytown Tribe fan · 09-19-2002, 03:42 PM

Another record I'd consider unapproachable is the 623 bases that Ruth accumulated in 1921 (that is: times-on-base + extra bases on hits + stolen bases).

That year, Ruth was on base 353 times, which is the 3rd most ever, and had 253 extra bases on hits and 17 stolen bases. His 457 total bases on hits that season is still the record.

moose · 09-19-2002, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by SmedIndy
Who are you? Ford Frick?

Bonds has played in 135 games this year, according to ESPN.

hey man, i'm just pointing out that the seasons are of different lengths...

Skip · 09-19-2002, 06:47 PM

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What is "times on base"? I assume hits + walks + HBP, but do errors and fielders choices count?

Can someone answer this for me?

Ytown Tribe fan · 09-19-2002, 07:00 PM

Times on base is the number of times that a batter has reached base safely by any possible means.

VNV Nation · 09-19-2002, 07:10 PM

errors and FC don't count.

Skip · 09-19-2002, 07:19 PM

Okay guys, which is it? Any possible means - or - Errors and FC dont count?

VNV Nation · 09-19-2002, 07:23 PM

Errors and FC don't count.

As far as I know, no one keeps track of that.

Ruth had 205 hits, 170 walks, 4 HBP in 1923.

Skip · 09-19-2002, 07:35 PM

Thank you VNV.

09-19-2002, 08:19 AM	#1
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	379 Maybe the most significant single-season record around, as far as offensive impact, is the much-unheralded "times-on-base" record. In 1923, Babe Ruth got on base 379 times. Only three players have been on base more than 350 times in a season (The Babe did it twice, along with Sliding Billy Hamilton and Ted Williams). Barry has a chance this year. The more I think about it, the more significant this record seems: you have to have a high OBA, which is the single most important offensive indicator, plus you have to be in the lineup every day.

09-19-2002, 11:19 AM	#5
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Being on base 350+ times is a monster season as indicated by how rarely it has been done. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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09-19-2002, 11:05 AM	#4
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Barry has no shot at 379 or 380 times on base this season; I meant he has a shot at 350, which would put him in pretty elite company. Er, I mean *350.

09-19-2002, 11:23 AM	#6
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	What is "times on base"? I assume hits + walks + HBP, but do errors and fielders choices count? Even if they dont, I think Bonds is better than 50-50 to get to 350 this year. I'd never really paid any attention to this stat before.

09-19-2002, 03:42 PM	#8
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Another record I'd consider unapproachable is the 623 bases that Ruth accumulated in 1921 (that is: times-on-base + extra bases on hits + stolen bases). That year, Ruth was on base 353 times, which is the 3rd most ever, and had 253 extra bases on hits and 17 stolen bases. His 457 total bases on hits that season is still the record.

09-19-2002, 07:00 PM	#11
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Times on base is the number of times that a batter has reached base safely by any possible means.

09-19-2002, 07:10 PM	#12
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	errors and FC don't count.

09-19-2002, 07:19 PM	#13
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	Okay guys, which is it? Any possible means - or - Errors and FC dont count?

09-19-2002, 07:23 PM	#14
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	Errors and FC don't count. As far as I know, no one keeps track of that. Ruth had 205 hits, 170 walks, 4 HBP in 1923.

09-19-2002, 07:35 PM	#15
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	Thank you VNV.

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