Oh my Manny!!

hmrsf · 09-11-2002, 09:30 PM

Hit grand slam number 15 tonight. Lou Gehrig holds the record at 23. Could Manny top that?

Duque · 09-11-2002, 09:55 PM

Did he dog it around the bases?

J/K

Max Power · 09-11-2002, 10:17 PM

He still has to pass Ventura, no?

Craig S. · 09-11-2002, 10:27 PM

He's got 8 guys to pass before Lou Gehrig, but it's certainly possible.

hmrsf · 09-11-2002, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Max Power
He still has to pass Ventura, no?

*tied with Ventura at 15 unless the site I used was not updated.

Lou Gehrig 23
Eddie Murray 19
Willie McCovey 18
Jimmie Foxx 17
Ted Williams 17
Hank Aaron 16 6
Dave Kingman 16
Babe Ruth 16
Robin Ventura 15

Craig S. · 09-11-2002, 10:36 PM

Ventura had 15 coming into the season.

He hit his 16th off Tanyon Sturtze on July 28th.

hmrsf · 09-11-2002, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Craig S.
Ventura had 15 coming into the season.

He hit his 16th off Tanyon Sturtze on July 28th.

Thank you for the correction. Ramirez does have 1 slam less than Ventura but is 5 years younger also.

VNV Nation · 09-11-2002, 11:17 PM

Manny is 30 year old so of course he could break Gehrig's record. He's a great hitter, hitting cleanup. He's hit 15 in 8 1/2 years, I don't see what would be so difficult about hitting 9 more in, say...10 years.
He would obviously be good enough to still play at age 40 if he wanted to.

hmrsf · 09-11-2002, 11:27 PM

VNV- so glad you see it too.

While others want to comment on the players that Manny has to pass (all but one retired) no one is saying wow, 8 1/2 years, 15 slams!

No knocks on Ventura. 16 slams is 16 slams! Out of the 2 players Ramirez and Ventura, who has the best chance of breaking Gehrig's record? That is what the thread was about is all.

JamesI · 09-12-2002, 12:00 AM

I don't know. Grand Slam opprotunities aren't too common. But if anyone now can do it, it's probably Manny. My guess, Murray is safe in second on this list.

poorme · 09-12-2002, 09:17 AM

I'd be interested to see stats with bases loaded for all the guys. I don't know if they exist for Gehrig's era.

Seems like this record is a whole lot easier nowadays.

Qman · 09-12-2002, 01:13 PM

He absolutely can do it, but a lot will depend on the players on the team batting in front of him. So far in his career he has had decent OBP guys in front of him.

I think that having a 100 rbi guy hitting in front of him will decrease the opportunities.

Fuzzy Bear · 09-12-2002, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Qman
He absolutely can do it, but a lot will depend on the players on the team batting in front of him. So far in his career he has had decent OBP guys in front of him.

Any player who would approach this record would be having big OBP guys ahead of him. This is a record that depends on others, as well as yourself. That shouldn't detract from Manny's record, if he gets it.

Skip · 09-12-2002, 07:21 PM

[Lee Sinins] Grand Slams are simply a fluke stat and shouldn't even be discussed by reasonable people on an intelligent baseball site. [/LS] So there.

NCFella19 · 09-18-2002, 07:47 PM

Fluke stat or not, there's just something gorgeous about watching Manny's HR swing with bases juiced.

I hope he does it. I think he's the better RBI man than Ventura year-in, year-out.

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hmrsf forum mom Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: relocation Posts: 4,298	VNV- so glad you see it too. While others want to comment on the players that Manny has to pass (all but one retired) no one is saying wow, 8 1/2 years, 15 slams! No knocks on Ventura. 16 slams is 16 slams! Out of the 2 players Ramirez and Ventura, who has the best chance of breaking Gehrig's record? That is what the thread was about is all. __________________ NDF who shares good karma! Get a coaster! My cup is not only 1/2 full it is brimming! We don't need no stinking Arods!

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Qman NetShrine Rookie Of The Year Join Date: May 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 36	He absolutely can do it, but a lot will depend on the players on the team batting in front of him. So far in his career he has had decent OBP guys in front of him. I think that having a 100 rbi guy hitting in front of him will decrease the opportunities. __________________ The greatest team I played for was the United States Marine Corps. - Ted Williams

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Craig S. Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,330	He's got 8 guys to pass before Lou Gehrig, but it's certainly possible.

09-11-2002, 10:36 PM	#6
Craig S. Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,330	Ventura had 15 coming into the season. He hit his 16th off Tanyon Sturtze on July 28th.

09-11-2002, 11:17 PM	#8
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	Manny is 30 year old so of course he could break Gehrig's record. He's a great hitter, hitting cleanup. He's hit 15 in 8 1/2 years, I don't see what would be so difficult about hitting 9 more in, say...10 years. He would obviously be good enough to still play at age 40 if he wanted to.

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JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I don't know. Grand Slam opprotunities aren't too common. But if anyone now can do it, it's probably Manny. My guess, Murray is safe in second on this list.

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poorme Guest Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,625	I'd be interested to see stats with bases loaded for all the guys. I don't know if they exist for Gehrig's era. Seems like this record is a whole lot easier nowadays.

09-12-2002, 07:21 PM	#14
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	[Lee Sinins] Grand Slams are simply a fluke stat and shouldn't even be discussed by reasonable people on an intelligent baseball site. [/LS] So there.

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NCFella19 All-NetShrine Team Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 417	Fluke stat or not, there's just something gorgeous about watching Manny's HR swing with bases juiced. I hope he does it. I think he's the better RBI man than Ventura year-in, year-out. __________________ "It's not the high price of stardom that bothers me, it's the high price of mediocrity." -- Bill Veeck

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