Let's Ban In-Season Trades

Fuzzy Bear · 08-01-2002, 07:01 PM

I propose that all trades during the season be banned.

I propose that the only way a player can be moved from a team during the season is either on waivers, or between the minors and majors. The only help you can get is through your farm system or through some free agent you can find in the middle of the season, or through a waiver pick.

Would this not end the idea of "buying" a pennant?

College teams and High School Teams can't trade during the season. Why should the pros?

If the reserve clause were in effect, I might not be advocating this. It is a bit revolutionary.

What do you all think?

VNV Nation · 08-01-2002, 07:13 PM

You know, I'm all for this. The idea that only a few teams each year are playing for anything is just appalling to me. When I was a kid, if my team was 50-60, I'd still watch the rest of the year, because I'd hope they'd finish .500 or something. In effect, teams are now saying there's no reason to come to any more games this year, because there's no point in trying to win.

poorme · 08-01-2002, 07:43 PM

Although i can see the benefits of your proposal, I would vote against it. The real problem is the ever widening revenue distribution.

TGwynn19 · 08-01-2002, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fuzzy Bear
I propose that all trades during the season be banned.
What do you all think?

You cannot be serious.

pwdennis · 08-01-2002, 09:09 PM

cubfan33 · 08-01-2002, 09:55 PM

Yeah, no trades works so well for football. This proposal may be the goofiest one I've seen yet and perpetuates the idea of small market and large market and that revenue differential matters. Like ERA as a performance measure, I guess market size is a tough one to let go of, but let go .... no such thing as market size.

soxfan121 · 08-01-2002, 10:09 PM

Trades and the trade deadline increase my interest in baseball.

Now, if we're talking about "buying" players, I would vote to ban that during the season, but would allow it in the offseason.

TGwynn19 · 08-01-2002, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cubfan33
, I guess size is a tough one to let go of, but let go .... no such thing as size.

with some editing Cubfan33 says 'size does not matter'

On the serious side, if you eliminated in season trades you would seriously detract from the excitement of the pennant races, IMO.

VNV Nation · 08-01-2002, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TGwynn19

with some editing Cubfan33 says 'size does not matter'

On the serious side, if you eliminated in season trades you would seriously detract from the excitement of the pennant races, IMO.

Why is that?

TGwynn19 · 08-01-2002, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VNV Nation

Why is that?

Simply, 162 games. While your team may be 12 out on 8/1, if they sign a LHP and a stud 1B they MIGHT make up the ground. And if they didn't you MIGHT be mad that WGN is showing Cubs games instead of Jerry Springer!

sweaver · 08-01-2002, 11:47 PM

Trades are a big part of the fun, in season or out. Who is going where, who might be going where, who might be traded for who.

No way I want to give that up.

JamesI · 08-01-2002, 11:59 PM

I like trades. It may make it easier for some teams to win than others, but it adds something to the game. I like the excitement of the trade deadline. Teams that are buying a pennant do most of the shopping well before the season starts. Let's fix that, not change this.

sweaver · 08-02-2002, 10:00 AM

Say your second baseman breaks his leg in July, and you're in a pennant race. You don't have a major-league-ready prospect in the minors. What do you do, if you can't trade? Ride your non-hitting backup?

KCBOOMER · 08-02-2002, 10:13 AM

Are you trying to give all Yankees' fans and Union shills a heart attack???

WiredTiger · 08-02-2002, 10:45 AM

I would say that this would hurt small market teams worse than large market teams like the Yankees. The Yankees would then stockpile talent at each position. Small market teams who are struggling wouldn't be able to trade their marketable players for help and wouldn't be able to build for the future.

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08-01-2002, 07:01 PM	#1
Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	Let's Ban In-Season Trades I propose that all trades during the season be banned. I propose that the only way a player can be moved from a team during the season is either on waivers, or between the minors and majors. The only help you can get is through your farm system or through some free agent you can find in the middle of the season, or through a waiver pick. Would this not end the idea of "buying" a pennant? College teams and High School Teams can't trade during the season. Why should the pros? If the reserve clause were in effect, I might not be advocating this. It is a bit revolutionary. What do you all think?

08-01-2002, 09:09 PM	#5
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	NO ! __________________ "I would submit that if the world survives for a million years, perhaps its finest hour may be that in the last half of the 20th century, when the power to blow up the world rested in the hands of a few men in two very unsophisticated and suspicious countries, we didn't do it, and one American, Richard Nixon, moved the cold war away from permanent confrontation toward victory. How could any wrong that he did compare with that?" - John Sears

08-01-2002, 09:55 PM	#6
cubfan33 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,359	NFL Yeah, no trades works so well for football. This proposal may be the goofiest one I've seen yet and perpetuates the idea of small market and large market and that revenue differential matters. Like ERA as a performance measure, I guess market size is a tough one to let go of, but let go .... no such thing as market size. __________________ UTK available only at www.baseballprospectus.com "I was pulling for Pete and agreeing with (commissioner) Bud Selig that Pete should be eligible for the Hall of Fame," said Giles, now chairman of the Phillies. "Bud was close to making him eligible right after his meeting with Pete (November 2002). Right after that, Pete got into tax trouble (in California), and that delayed the process." - Phillies Chairman Bill Giles in the Dayton Daily News, January 25th, 2004.

08-02-2002, 10:13 AM	#14
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Are you trying to give all Yankees' fans and Union shills a heart attack??? __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

08-01-2002, 07:13 PM	#2
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	You know, I'm all for this. The idea that only a few teams each year are playing for anything is just appalling to me. When I was a kid, if my team was 50-60, I'd still watch the rest of the year, because I'd hope they'd finish .500 or something. In effect, teams are now saying there's no reason to come to any more games this year, because there's no point in trying to win.

08-01-2002, 07:43 PM	#3
poorme Guest Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,625	Although i can see the benefits of your proposal, I would vote against it. The real problem is the ever widening revenue distribution.

08-01-2002, 10:09 PM	#7
soxfan121 Renounced Membership 7/9/03 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Live Free Or Die, USA Posts: 1,335	Trades and the trade deadline increase my interest in baseball. Now, if we're talking about "buying" players, I would vote to ban that during the season, but would allow it in the offseason.

08-01-2002, 11:47 PM	#11
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Trades are a big part of the fun, in season or out. Who is going where, who might be going where, who might be traded for who. No way I want to give that up.

08-01-2002, 11:59 PM	#12
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I like trades. It may make it easier for some teams to win than others, but it adds something to the game. I like the excitement of the trade deadline. Teams that are buying a pennant do most of the shopping well before the season starts. Let's fix that, not change this.

08-02-2002, 10:00 AM	#13
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Say your second baseman breaks his leg in July, and you're in a pennant race. You don't have a major-league-ready prospect in the minors. What do you do, if you can't trade? Ride your non-hitting backup?

08-02-2002, 10:45 AM	#15
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	I would say that this would hurt small market teams worse than large market teams like the Yankees. The Yankees would then stockpile talent at each position. Small market teams who are struggling wouldn't be able to trade their marketable players for help and wouldn't be able to build for the future.

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