Ricky Gutierrez

Ytown Tribe fan · 07-02-2002, 09:39 PM

I have nothing good to say about Ricky Gutierrez.

JamesI · 07-02-2002, 09:44 PM

I remember seeing him play in the minors.

I also have nothing to say about him.

07-02-2002, 10:37 PM

Ricky Gutierrez....a poor man's Edgar Renteria....a rich man's Kurt Stillwell (with a tad more power).

SmedIndy · 07-02-2002, 10:57 PM

Oh, you should have heard the Cub fans lament and moan when he was out of the lineup last year:

"Oh, we need him back. You gotta have Ricky at short."

Enough to make a man chew his own foot off....

JamesI · 07-02-2002, 10:59 PM

I remember when Gutierrez was supposed to move Ripken back to third. Then again I remember the same thing being said about Juan Bell and Manny Alexander.

SmedIndy · 07-02-2002, 11:00 PM

I think that was Jackie Gutierrez, not Ricky. Ricky came up with San Diego.

JamesI · 07-02-2002, 11:03 PM

oops...

NCFella19 · 07-02-2002, 11:39 PM

Oh YTown, why must we be tormented with the scourge of Gutierrez???? Can Shapiro have a do-over?

The awesome POWER!
The graceful agility he brings to the pivot of a 6-4-3!
The sheer awe-inspiring....

oh forget it.

JamesI · 07-02-2002, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmedIndy
I think that was Jackie Gutierrez, not Ricky. Ricky came up with San Diego.

I found out my original statement about hearing about Rickey moving Cal back to 3rd was correct. Rickey was traded from the Orioles to the Padres in 1992, without ever having reached Baltimore. I watched a lot of Rochester Red Wings games, the O's AAA team, and heard how he would replace Cal at those games.

Craig S. · 07-03-2002, 01:22 AM

Flashes of good play, followed by consistently average to below-average performances. He's a barely serviceable player, and certainly not someone to get excited about.

WiredTiger · 07-03-2002, 09:37 AM

One of the poster boys for "Don't Overspend on Mediocre Players"

SmedIndy · 07-03-2002, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JamesI

I found out my original statement about hearing about Rickey moving Cal back to 3rd was correct. Rickey was traded from the Orioles to the Padres in 1992, without ever having reached Baltimore. I watched a lot of Rochester Red Wings games, the O's AAA team, and heard how he would replace Cal at those games.

Oopsy doopsy...didn't consult my super register...argh...

poorme · 07-03-2002, 09:51 AM

He's got some skills. He's just overpaid.

Ytown Tribe fan · 07-03-2002, 10:46 AM

Ricky G. is the very worst hitter in the majors this year. Dead last. Any league, any team, any position. Period. Look it up.

The only full-timers with lower OPS's than Ricky are Neifi Perez, Rey Ordonez and Cesar Itzuris, and they all have more than twice as many RBI and more runs scored than Ricky.

Ricky has 10 RBI in 230 AB. Even Greg Vaughn towers over him.

Ricky has more GiDP than RBI. Think about that. He has made more outs with less production than any hitter in the bigs this year.

He has only scored 18 runs. He has no stolen base attempts and no power. Ricky is the only major leaguer with 200+ AB's who has failed to either score or drive in 20 runs. His OPS and SLG are both under .290.

You don't build or rebuild with 30-something never-wases when you have 20-something defensive wizzes who can hit a little, like John MacDonald. Not only that but Johnny Mac was actually hitting some while Ricky was on the DL, plus being a fine defensive player.

So, as soon as Ricky's off the DL, what does Cholly do? All-Star coach Cholly puts him back in the lineup and lets Mac ride the bench.

Is Julio Franco available?

gyb13 · 07-11-2002, 05:54 PM

......and you get all this for only $11.5 million over three years!

(sorry, couldn't resist)

07-02-2002, 09:39 PM	#1
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Ricky Gutierrez I have nothing good to say about Ricky Gutierrez.

07-02-2002, 11:39 PM	#8
NCFella19 All-NetShrine Team Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 417	Oh YTown, why must we be tormented with the scourge of Gutierrez???? Can Shapiro have a do-over? The awesome POWER! The graceful agility he brings to the pivot of a 6-4-3! The sheer awe-inspiring.... oh forget it. __________________ "It's not the high price of stardom that bothers me, it's the high price of mediocrity." -- Bill Veeck

07-03-2002, 10:46 AM	#14
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Ricky G. is the very worst hitter in the majors this year. Dead last. Any league, any team, any position. Period. Look it up. The only full-timers with lower OPS's than Ricky are Neifi Perez, Rey Ordonez and Cesar Itzuris, and they all have more than twice as many RBI and more runs scored than Ricky. Ricky has 10 RBI in 230 AB. Even Greg Vaughn towers over him. Ricky has more GiDP than RBI. Think about that. He has made more outs with less production than any hitter in the bigs this year. He has only scored 18 runs. He has no stolen base attempts and no power. Ricky is the only major leaguer with 200+ AB's who has failed to either score or drive in 20 runs. His OPS and SLG are both under .290. You don't build or rebuild with 30-something never-wases when you have 20-something defensive wizzes who can hit a little, like John MacDonald. Not only that but Johnny Mac was actually hitting some while Ricky was on the DL, plus being a fine defensive player. So, as soon as Ricky's off the DL, what does Cholly do? All-Star coach Cholly puts him back in the lineup and lets Mac ride the bench. Is Julio Franco available? Last edited by Ytown Tribe fan : 07-03-2002 at 11:35 AM.

07-11-2002, 05:54 PM	#15
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	......and you get all this for only $11.5 million over three years! (sorry, couldn't resist) __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

07-02-2002, 09:44 PM	#2
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I remember seeing him play in the minors. I also have nothing to say about him.

07-02-2002, 10:37 PM	#3
Doobster779 Posts: n/a	Ricky Gutierrez....a poor man's Edgar Renteria....a rich man's Kurt Stillwell (with a tad more power).

07-02-2002, 10:57 PM	#4
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	Oh, you should have heard the Cub fans lament and moan when he was out of the lineup last year: "Oh, we need him back. You gotta have Ricky at short." Enough to make a man chew his own foot off....

07-02-2002, 10:59 PM	#5
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I remember when Gutierrez was supposed to move Ripken back to third. Then again I remember the same thing being said about Juan Bell and Manny Alexander.

07-02-2002, 11:00 PM	#6
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	I think that was Jackie Gutierrez, not Ricky. Ricky came up with San Diego.

07-02-2002, 11:03 PM	#7
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	oops...

07-03-2002, 01:22 AM	#10
Craig S. Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,330	Flashes of good play, followed by consistently average to below-average performances. He's a barely serviceable player, and certainly not someone to get excited about.

07-03-2002, 09:37 AM	#11
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	One of the poster boys for "Don't Overspend on Mediocre Players"

07-03-2002, 09:51 AM	#13
poorme Guest Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,625	He's got some skills. He's just overpaid.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Ricky Rodriguez	Ytown Tribe fan	2003 Active Player News, Analysis, & Commentary Archives	14	04-14-2003 01:51 PM
Ricky Gutierrez Out For Year	padresfan19	2002 Active Player News, Analysis, & Commentary Archives	9	08-22-2002 03:06 PM
Let's Make A Deal!!!	hmrsf	2003 Seventh Inning Stretch Archives	43	07-18-2002 03:14 PM
Things That Bad In Cleveland?	Max Power	2002 Hot Baseball Chatter Archives	149	06-27-2002 11:51 PM
Ricky G.	Ytown Tribe fan	2002 Active Player News, Analysis, & Commentary Archives	5	03-23-2002 09:03 PM