Doug Mientkiewicz???

Fuzzy Bear · 07-19-2002, 01:06 PM

I cannot see how this guy can be the 1B on a true contender.

The Twins will go nowhere in the postseason with Doug Mientkiewicz at 1B, stellar glovework and all.

He's hitting .247 with only 3 HRs. He has a .375 OBP, so he has some offensive value, but he only slugs .350.

The Twins need more power at this power position. They can do this by picking up players who can form a platoon combination with Mientkiewicz. They need power from 1B, or they could slump so bad that they could bring the 1964 Phillies to mind.

JamesI · 07-19-2002, 01:12 PM

Since there is no chance the Twins will add payroll to pick up a top first basemen like Thome or Palmeiro, they might as well keep him this year. Maybe he can improve, or after the season some other team will make a bad trade for him since he's hypes as a good player.

Fuzzy Bear · 07-19-2002, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JamesI
Since there is no chance the Twins will add payroll to pick up a top first basemen like Thome or Palmeiro, they might as well keep him this year. Maybe he can improve, or after the season some other team will make a bad trade for him since he's hypes as a good player.

What about picking up an outfielder who could serve as a platoon partner. A RH hitter to be a left/right or glove/stick platoon?

soxfan121 · 07-19-2002, 01:41 PM

Using Kielty, Mohr, LeCroy, and Cuddyer should be enough - IF - Gardenhire uses them to spell Dougie M. at 1B...no need to spend money Mr. Burns, I mean, Pohlad.

rcartman28 · 07-19-2002, 01:52 PM

My fiancee would be devastated if they replaced him at first. We picked our partial season tix seats because he plays there. Seriously, if he is that good defensively, they could consider moving him to second base and rent a big stick like Thome (which would serve two purposes--a better hitter at first and he absolutely kills the Twins).......

by the way, Fuzzy Bear, the Twins did slump last year in a manner that would have made the '64 Phillies proud......

sweaver · 07-19-2002, 02:06 PM

Yes, that is how you spell it.

Oh, that wasn't the question?

While replacing Mientkiewicz with, say LeCroy in the lineup would probably be a step ahead, to break up a contending team at this point in the year would likely shake their confidence, and lead to worse results, not better.

soxfan121 · 07-19-2002, 02:12 PM

Chemistry lessons from the physics professor...at least you're still in the physical science building sweaver.

I agree wholeheartedly. The Twinkies are much better off getting LeCroy, Ortiz, and Cuddyer in the lineup against "good" pitching (and giving Doug the day off). Dougie is an asset even when he's not hitting so they should try to get the boys on the bench involved.

Max Power · 07-19-2002, 02:32 PM

Fuzzy, this does not belong in "Chatter" - therefore, I am moving it to PA&S, please see the link in my sig about "Am I posting corrrectly?" Thanks.

gyb13 · 07-19-2002, 02:46 PM

how about just replacing him with his wife?

Duque · 07-19-2002, 03:41 PM

Given they have Justin Morneau, super-prospect, coming along in the near future, I think the Twins are unlikely to make any serious effort to keep him.

KCBOOMER · 07-19-2002, 04:19 PM

With the strike coming there isn't any point in keeping him if you a replacement on the way.

LeGrandOrange · 07-19-2002, 06:11 PM

We all know what happened last year when the Twins got rid of an offensive cog in Matt Lawton...while this issue would be benching an offensive cog instead of trading him, there's a lot to be said for team chemistry.
Minky won't be deat, simple as that. Maybe you give more playing time to some big boppers like LeCroy, but he's still the regular...and as long as that familiarity is in place, the Twins will do well, regardless of his statistical success.

Skip · 07-19-2002, 06:14 PM

deat?

LeGrandOrange · 07-19-2002, 06:25 PM

I can't spell today.

He won't be "deaLt". Bleh...

gyb13 · 07-19-2002, 06:30 PM

I don't think it's fair to call Doug M, 2002 version, an offensive 'cog', though. Lawton was the Twins top OBP guy last year (prob their 3rd best hitter after Koskie and Minky). But Minky has been awful this year:

Code:

                                BA  OBP  SLG  HR  RBI   AB
01 Lawton (MIN only)           .293 .396 .439  10   51  376
02 Mientkiewicz (MIN)          .247 .375 .351    3   41  288

View Poll Results: Do the Twins need to get rid of Doug Mientkiewicz?
Yes, right away---anyone's better	1	7.69%
Yes, but let's finish the season with him.	3	23.08%
No, but let's try to build a platoon combination.	4	30.77%
No way! He's such an inspiration!	5	38.46%
Voters: 13. You may not vote on this poll

07-19-2002, 01:06 PM	#1
Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	Doug Mientkiewicz??? I cannot see how this guy can be the 1B on a true contender. The Twins will go nowhere in the postseason with Doug Mientkiewicz at 1B, stellar glovework and all. He's hitting .247 with only 3 HRs. He has a .375 OBP, so he has some offensive value, but he only slugs .350. The Twins need more power at this power position. They can do this by picking up players who can form a platoon combination with Mientkiewicz. They need power from 1B, or they could slump so bad that they could bring the 1964 Phillies to mind.

07-19-2002, 01:52 PM	#5
rcartman28 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hudson, WI Posts: 1,408	My fiancee would be devastated if they replaced him at first. We picked our partial season tix seats because he plays there. Seriously, if he is that good defensively, they could consider moving him to second base and rent a big stick like Thome (which would serve two purposes--a better hitter at first and he absolutely kills the Twins)....... by the way, Fuzzy Bear, the Twins did slump last year in a manner that would have made the '64 Phillies proud...... __________________ I would have looked out for the water main. But that's just me..... Brett Favre

07-19-2002, 02:32 PM	#8
Max Power NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: May 2002 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 5,548	Fuzzy, this does not belong in "Chatter" - therefore, I am moving it to PA&S, please see the link in my sig about "Am I posting corrrectly?" Thanks. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator "They come and they go, Hobbs. They come and they go." That's why there's NetShrine.com

07-19-2002, 02:46 PM	#9
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	how about just replacing him with his wife? __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

07-19-2002, 01:12 PM	#2
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	Since there is no chance the Twins will add payroll to pick up a top first basemen like Thome or Palmeiro, they might as well keep him this year. Maybe he can improve, or after the season some other team will make a bad trade for him since he's hypes as a good player.

07-19-2002, 01:41 PM	#4
soxfan121 Renounced Membership 7/9/03 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Live Free Or Die, USA Posts: 1,335	Using Kielty, Mohr, LeCroy, and Cuddyer should be enough - IF - Gardenhire uses them to spell Dougie M. at 1B...no need to spend money Mr. Burns, I mean, Pohlad.

07-19-2002, 02:06 PM	#6
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Yes, that is how you spell it. Oh, that wasn't the question? While replacing Mientkiewicz with, say LeCroy in the lineup would probably be a step ahead, to break up a contending team at this point in the year would likely shake their confidence, and lead to worse results, not better.

07-19-2002, 02:12 PM	#7
soxfan121 Renounced Membership 7/9/03 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Live Free Or Die, USA Posts: 1,335	Chemistry lessons from the physics professor...at least you're still in the physical science building sweaver. I agree wholeheartedly. The Twinkies are much better off getting LeCroy, Ortiz, and Cuddyer in the lineup against "good" pitching (and giving Doug the day off). Dougie is an asset even when he's not hitting so they should try to get the boys on the bench involved.

07-19-2002, 03:41 PM	#10
Duque NetShrine's Desperado Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 2,638	Given they have Justin Morneau, super-prospect, coming along in the near future, I think the Twins are unlikely to make any serious effort to keep him. __________________ Bad Andy It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

07-19-2002, 04:19 PM	#11
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	With the strike coming there isn't any point in keeping him if you a replacement on the way. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

07-19-2002, 06:11 PM	#12
LeGrandOrange Membership Suspended 4/11/04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 3,783	We all know what happened last year when the Twins got rid of an offensive cog in Matt Lawton...while this issue would be benching an offensive cog instead of trading him, there's a lot to be said for team chemistry. Minky won't be deat, simple as that. Maybe you give more playing time to some big boppers like LeCroy, but he's still the regular...and as long as that familiarity is in place, the Twins will do well, regardless of his statistical success.

07-19-2002, 06:14 PM	#13
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	deat?

07-19-2002, 06:25 PM	#14
LeGrandOrange Membership Suspended 4/11/04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 3,783	I can't spell today. He won't be "deaLt". Bleh...

07-19-2002, 06:30 PM	#15
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	I don't think it's fair to call Doug M, 2002 version, an offensive 'cog', though. Lawton was the Twins top OBP guy last year (prob their 3rd best hitter after Koskie and Minky). But Minky has been awful this year: Code: BA OBP SLG HR RBI AB 01 Lawton (MIN only) .293 .396 .439 10 51 376 02 Mientkiewicz (MIN) .247 .375 .351 3 41 288 __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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