Who was better: Ron Santo or Brooks Robinson?

Fuzzy Bear · 06-27-2002, 06:50 PM

Santo! You know how I feel about Brooks!

sweaver · 06-27-2002, 07:54 PM

I'll say Brooks, but it's close. Reeeeeeeeeeal close.

poorme · 06-27-2002, 08:15 PM

They're pretty close. I'd take Santo. I think he was a better offensive player and just a little worse defensively. I wouldn't believe anyone who told me one was much better than the other.

Duque · 06-27-2002, 08:24 PM

Brooks was the best gloveman of his era, and though Santo won a few Gold Gloves, he wasn't quite in Robinson's sphere. But, Santo's offense made up for the difference.

Skip · 06-27-2002, 08:25 PM

I'll say Brooks. But its close, realllll close. Or did someone say that already?

Craig S. · 06-27-2002, 08:34 PM

Santo. His offense was just too superior to Brooks for the defensive differences to matter.

pwdennis · 06-27-2002, 10:11 PM

Brooks Robinson - from 1959 to 1971 Brooksie was a pretty decent offensive player (before and after those years, his glove sustained him as a big leaguer)

VNV Nation · 06-27-2002, 10:35 PM

Tough call, but I'd go with Brooks. I believe that most of the difference between the two offensively was a result of parks, Santo hit 216 of 342 homers at home, and probably picked up some points in batting average, while Brooks hit 137 at home, 131 on the road.

Defensively, Brooks was the best or damn near the best of all time, and I think Santo was just a good fielder. So you have very good hitter vs. good hitter, great fielder vs. good fielder. Gotta give Brooks the edge in longevity, and he had a reputation, perhaps deserved, of being a great clutch hitter...he did hit .303 in nine postseason series...need we mention his defense in those series?

SmedIndy · 06-27-2002, 10:58 PM

The homer in me says Santo, and since he never got to the series, it's not fair to trot out the postseason stats....not Santo's fault Leo Durocher choked and didn't rest anyone...

VNV Nation · 06-27-2002, 11:00 PM

Wouldn't hold it against Santo for not making series, it's simply another positive for Brooksie.

Bill James ranks it Santo 6, Robinson 7 among all-time 3B.

sweaver · 06-28-2002, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skip
I'll say Brooks. But its close, realllll close. Or did someone say that already?

Yeah, I just can't trill my "l"s like that.

JamesI · 06-28-2002, 12:22 AM

I'll vote Brooks, but am willing to admit an Orioles bias.

KCBOOMER · 06-28-2002, 11:41 AM

I'll say Brooks, but don't make me proove it.

TimmyB · 06-28-2002, 03:11 PM

Quite a horse-race, so far. Brooks, as I see it, by a nose. (But, I wouldn't have a fit if Santo ended up in the Hall.)

Brooks actually reminds me of Fisk in a way. Great Series moment(s) added to a very, very good career. Could have been viewed as a bubble candidate otherwise. Santo never had a defining moment and was often overshadowed on his own team.

Of course, you could also make the argument that Brooks wasn't even the best guy named "Robinson" on the O's, much less the best player on the team.

Oh dear... this is very confusing...

Skip · 06-28-2002, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TimmyB
Quite a horse-race, so far. Brooks, as I see it, by a nose. (But, I wouldn't have a fit if Santo ended up in the Hall.)

Brooks actually reminds me of Fisk in a way. Great Series moment(s) added to a very, very good career. Could have been viewed as a bubble candidate otherwise. Santo never had a defining moment and was often overshadowed on his own team.

Of course, you could also make the argument that Brooks wasn't even the best guy named "Robinson" on the O's, much less the best player on the team.

Oh dear... this is very confusing...

Gee, uh ... thanks TimmyB. You certainly cleared it all up for us

Quote:

Originally posted by sweaver
Yeah, I just can't trill my "l"s like that.

It's a gift...

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06-27-2002, 06:50 PM	#1
Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	Who was better: Ron Santo or Brooks Robinson? Santo! You know how I feel about Brooks!

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Duque NetShrine's Desperado Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 2,638	Brooks was the best gloveman of his era, and though Santo won a few Gold Gloves, he wasn't quite in Robinson's sphere. But, Santo's offense made up for the difference. __________________ Bad Andy It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	I'll say Brooks, but don't make me proove it. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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06-27-2002, 07:54 PM	#2
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	I'll say Brooks, but it's close. Reeeeeeeeeeal close.

06-27-2002, 08:15 PM	#3
poorme Guest Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,625	They're pretty close. I'd take Santo. I think he was a better offensive player and just a little worse defensively. I wouldn't believe anyone who told me one was much better than the other.

06-27-2002, 08:25 PM	#5
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	I'll say Brooks. But its close, realllll close. Or did someone say that already?

06-27-2002, 08:34 PM	#6
Craig S. Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,330	Santo. His offense was just too superior to Brooks for the defensive differences to matter.

06-27-2002, 10:11 PM	#7
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	Brooks Robinson - from 1959 to 1971 Brooksie was a pretty decent offensive player (before and after those years, his glove sustained him as a big leaguer)

06-27-2002, 10:35 PM	#8
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	Tough call, but I'd go with Brooks. I believe that most of the difference between the two offensively was a result of parks, Santo hit 216 of 342 homers at home, and probably picked up some points in batting average, while Brooks hit 137 at home, 131 on the road. Defensively, Brooks was the best or damn near the best of all time, and I think Santo was just a good fielder. So you have very good hitter vs. good hitter, great fielder vs. good fielder. Gotta give Brooks the edge in longevity, and he had a reputation, perhaps deserved, of being a great clutch hitter...he did hit .303 in nine postseason series...need we mention his defense in those series?

06-27-2002, 10:58 PM	#9
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	The homer in me says Santo, and since he never got to the series, it's not fair to trot out the postseason stats....not Santo's fault Leo Durocher choked and didn't rest anyone...

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VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	Wouldn't hold it against Santo for not making series, it's simply another positive for Brooksie. Bill James ranks it Santo 6, Robinson 7 among all-time 3B.

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JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I'll vote Brooks, but am willing to admit an Orioles bias.

06-28-2002, 03:11 PM	#14
TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	Quite a horse-race, so far. Brooks, as I see it, by a nose. (But, I wouldn't have a fit if Santo ended up in the Hall.) Brooks actually reminds me of Fisk in a way. Great Series moment(s) added to a very, very good career. Could have been viewed as a bubble candidate otherwise. Santo never had a defining moment and was often overshadowed on his own team. Of course, you could also make the argument that Brooks wasn't even the best guy named "Robinson" on the O's, much less the best player on the team. Oh dear... this is very confusing...

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