Pickoff attempt bush league?

Sal Maglie · 06-24-2002, 10:54 AM

I was reading the NL notes over at USA Today and came across this item:

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Chicago: LF Moises Alou missed Friday's game with a jammed right middle finger after he scrambled to get back to second base on a ninth-inning pick-off attempt by Texas on Thursday. Manager Don Baylor called it a "bush" play since Texas was ahead by three runs.

Is this one of those "unwritten rules"? Does it matter if the win is blowing in or out at Wrigley? Is Baylor just blowing hot air? Seems to me that you should be trying to get the other team out, no matter what the situation is.

Max Power · 06-24-2002, 11:01 AM

Three runs? Don Baylor, hell-low! This is the long ball era - - what's three runs? Nada.

poorme · 06-24-2002, 11:06 AM

Don Baylor is an idiot. 'nuff said!

SmedIndy · 06-24-2002, 11:22 AM

Don Baylor is Lamont - and we should all be Fred Sanford -

"Shut up, dummy!"

poorme · 06-24-2002, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by SmedIndy
Don Baylor is Lamont - and we should all be Fred Sanford -

Geno could sue you for that statement. At least Fred Sanford played for Casey Stengel and has a ring.

VNV Nation · 06-24-2002, 12:20 PM

I think you guys are being a little harsh. There are plenty of things to bash Don Baylor on -- No. 1 would be the time he wanted to trade Sammy Sosa because he wouldn't swab the decks or something.

But the guy's having a bad season and just lost one of his key players, he's gonna be upset. And getting under people's skin, especially the opposition -- "Hey man, that's bush-league" -- is part of the natural job of a manager.

Anyone ever actually bother to keep account of the things Phil Jackson says during a playoff series? Good lord.

SmedIndy · 06-24-2002, 02:23 PM

I think Jackson should just shut his damn trap, too...but Jackson actually has had success.

SmedIndy · 06-24-2002, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by poorme

Geno could sue you for that statement. At least Fred Sanford played for Casey Stengel and has a ring.

It took me a while, Poorme...but

Fuzzy Bear · 06-24-2002, 07:38 PM

Three runs ain't much these days. A pickoff play is a legit attempt to win a game.

Baseball folks are paid enough that looking bad shouldn't hurt. Egomania is a treatable disease.

piaseczynski · 06-24-2002, 09:29 PM

Lord, don't start me on Phil Jackson. A statue of Red Auerbach in Quincy Market could outcoach the zen-master.

KCBOOMER · 06-25-2002, 09:27 AM

Sounds like a frustation quote to me. Even he has to know how silly it sounds.

Pilgrim · 06-25-2002, 08:51 PM

Can't tell, but it sounds to me like Mr. Alou hurt his finger diving back into the bag HEAD FIRST. Maybe that's something that Col. Baylor should talk about at the next platoon meeting.

TimmyB · 06-26-2002, 11:54 AM

3 runs? Pick-off bush league? Get outta here!!! F'r cryin' out loud, if they'd been playing at Coors Lite, 8 runs wouldn't be safe.

Also, this is the Texas staff we're talking about. 8 runs may not be safe for these guys at sea-level.

Teaching guys how to do the "head-first" thing should be on everyone's list next spring.

Balrog · 06-29-2002, 08:42 PM

I would suggest Baylor was being a bit of a smartass when he made that statement, if he in fact said it or was even commenting on the pik attempt.

ps: I am not a fan of Baylor as a mgr.

gyb13 · 07-12-2002, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Balrog
ps: I am not a fan of Baylor as a mgr.

yeah, take a number....

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KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Sounds like a frustation quote to me. Even he has to know how silly it sounds. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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Pilgrim NetShrine MVP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 191	Can't tell, but it sounds to me like Mr. Alou hurt his finger diving back into the bag HEAD FIRST. Maybe that's something that Col. Baylor should talk about at the next platoon meeting. __________________ Never trust a car salesman from Milwaukee. [/color]

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Balrog NetShrine Hot Prospect Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 19	I would suggest Baylor was being a bit of a smartass when he made that statement, if he in fact said it or was even commenting on the pik attempt. ps: I am not a fan of Baylor as a mgr. __________________ " I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball. " Pete Rose

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poorme Guest Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,625	Don Baylor is an idiot. 'nuff said!

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SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	Don Baylor is Lamont - and we should all be Fred Sanford - "Shut up, dummy!"

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VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	I think you guys are being a little harsh. There are plenty of things to bash Don Baylor on -- No. 1 would be the time he wanted to trade Sammy Sosa because he wouldn't swab the decks or something. But the guy's having a bad season and just lost one of his key players, he's gonna be upset. And getting under people's skin, especially the opposition -- "Hey man, that's bush-league" -- is part of the natural job of a manager. Anyone ever actually bother to keep account of the things Phil Jackson says during a playoff series? Good lord.

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SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	I think Jackson should just shut his damn trap, too...but Jackson actually has had success.

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Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	Three runs ain't much these days. A pickoff play is a legit attempt to win a game. Baseball folks are paid enough that looking bad shouldn't hurt. Egomania is a treatable disease.

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piaseczynski Having A NetShrine Cup Of Coffee Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 9	Lord, don't start me on Phil Jackson. A statue of Red Auerbach in Quincy Market could outcoach the zen-master.

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TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	3 runs? Pick-off bush league? Get outta here!!! F'r cryin' out loud, if they'd been playing at Coors Lite, 8 runs wouldn't be safe. Also, this is the Texas staff we're talking about. 8 runs may not be safe for these guys at sea-level. Teaching guys how to do the "head-first" thing should be on everyone's list next spring.

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