Lewis beats Tyson

[Skip]

I am NOT a boxing fan, but I hope this fight finally gets Tyson off of our collective radar screen. But God, what will he do if he is reduced to being a public nonentity. Scary....

I am a boxing fan, and I think Lennox referred to this fight as "Ridding the sport of it's last miscreant."

Thank god.

[tenkevcardinal]

Geez, Tyson was totally brownnosing to Lewis after the fight. He doesn't want to be put out of the sport yet.

[moose]

this fight just made me sad. what a boxer iron mike once was. it would have been amazing to see the pre-negative-whirlwind mike go charging at a guy with a reach like lennox's.

too bad.

[Skip]

Did anyone here spring for the pay-per-view? (Not that there's anything wrong with that... )

[Craig S.]

Originally posted by moose
this fight just made me sad.

That's how I felt, too. Even though he's a black mark on boxing, I feel bad for Tyson. He obviously has problems that run deeper than anything a trainer or Don King can help him with, yet nobody seems to care. All they see him as is a money-making venture. He's got more money than he'll ever need, but he'll never be anything but a nutcase until someone gets him the help he needs.

Remember when he was 20, and he had that great career ahead of him? The question back then was whether he'd be better than Ali. Now he's pretty much been reduced to some kind of freak show that we all like to watch and laugh. We used to watch him for his dominating performances - now we watch to see if he'll bite someone.

It is just sad.

[sweaver]

There's always pro wrestling.

Tyson hasn't been the same since his original trainer died.

[Craig S.]

Originally posted by sweaver
Tyson hasn't been the same since his original trainer died.

That's right - trainer and father figure, the latter of which I think was more important.

[Skip]

That's true about Cus D'Amato, but he was also somewhat of an enabler.

[pwdennis]

The question arises as to whether TYson was really a dominant fighter at his peak, or whether the heavyweight scene at the time was simply denuded of top quality fighters so Tyson merely looked dominant by contrast.

I tend to think that the latter was true.

Anyway, good riddance

[Max Power]

Tyson will be fighting Tony Danza on the next FOX Celebrity Boxing Special.

Originally posted by Skip
Did anyone here spring for the pay-per-view? (Not that there's anything wrong with that... )

I did...

You know.. Tyson's story is just one in the long line of abused, misused, and unused talent.

What it does, is puts Lennox Lewis in a fantastic position, historically... Lennox has now defeated everyone there is to defeat. He could keep going and take on the winner of the Ruiz/Johnson fight, or his mandatory opponent, Chris Byrd... but now... he's essentially reached immortality. This is ironic... by beating Tyson, he's now established himself as the greatest heavyweight in the last 20+ years. Had Tyson won, it would have been him. Those are pretty tall stakes.

[moose]

Originally posted by CpUltravox

What it does, is puts Lennox Lewis in a fantastic position, historically... Lennox has now defeated everyone there is to defeat. He could keep going and take on the winner of the Ruiz/Johnson fight, or his mandatory opponent, Chris Byrd... but now... he's essentially reached immortality. This is ironic... by beating Tyson, he's now established himself as the greatest heavyweight in the last 20+ years. Had Tyson won, it would have been him. Those are pretty tall stakes.

I really disagree. I mean, without fighting Tyson, everyone would say "oh, but you didn't ever fight tyson." so yes, in that sense, it was necessary for lewis.

but cmon, that didn't establish anything. tyson looked only slightly better than I would have in that ring, and that had very little (if anything) to do with lewis....

Was Tyson's performance because of Tyson, or because of Lewis' jab? I think it's a combination of both. Nonetheless... he's now beat everybody...

[Craig S.]

Originally posted by pwdennis
The question arises as to whether TYson was really a dominant fighter at his peak, or whether the heavyweight scene at the time was simply denuded of top quality fighters so Tyson merely looked dominant by contrast.

I tend to think that the latter was true.

That's a pretty good point. Looking back, nobody that Tyson fought will really go down as a great fighter. Ali had foils in Frazier, Norton and Foreman. Will Tyson's be Trevor Berbick and Tony Tucker?