Bill James Win Shares Book

Xanadu Dragon · 01-30-2002, 01:07 PM

Just heard that Bill James' Win Shares book will be coming out in the end of March.

If anyone else gets it, let us know what you think about it.

Duque · 01-31-2002, 10:48 PM

I'm skeptical - but if he does find a way to factor in offense and defense that works, it should be interesting. It'll be nice to see how he actually arrived at Craig Biggio as the 4th best 2B of all-time, for example.

Xanadu Dragon · 01-31-2002, 10:56 PM

Will let you know - in case I get it first. BTW, congrats on passing the 1,000 mark.

KCBOOMER · 02-01-2002, 10:58 AM

Having read the first 700 pages of James new Baseball Abstract it is no stretch to guess that the method of calculating win-shares is going almost incomprehensible to anyone who isn't a serious statistician.

Xanadu Dragon · 02-01-2002, 11:33 AM

Hope not - otherwise, I just wasted $19.99.

KCBOOMER · 02-01-2002, 01:17 PM

I'll bite, how did you waste $19.99 if the book is not coming out until March?

Xanadu Dragon · 02-01-2002, 01:30 PM

I had already ordered the STATS Scoreboard - and when they called to say it was no longer coming out, they offered to switch the order to the BJ WS book. I said yes.

Skip · 02-01-2002, 06:44 PM

I'm just soso excited that we all get to finally spend our money on a book containing information that should have been in the NHBA. Its hard for me to get past the thought that this is a marketing flimflam to sell two books instead of one. Guess I am a cynic.

Hopefully the methodology will be so clean that there's no doubt of the legitimacy of it's perspective (even if you disagree with it). I hear Pete Rose is taking odds.

Duque · 02-01-2002, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xanadu Dragon
BTW, congrats on passing the 1,000 mark.

Thanks! Long way to go before I catch up with The Conscience, though.

Xanadu Dragon · 02-01-2002, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Duque
Thanks! Long way to go before I catch up with The Conscience, though.

There probably should have been a space in his title "Con Science" as in the science of the con.

01-30-2002, 01:07 PM	#1
Xanadu Dragon NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 2,704	Bill James Win Shares Book Just heard that Bill James' Win Shares book will be coming out in the end of March. If anyone else gets it, let us know what you think about it. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator PLEASE READ: Community Standards . : ~ : PLEASE SHOP: Our Stuff! : ~ : HOW CAN YOU: Help? : ~ : BE NICE: To Your Fav Baseball Person.

01-31-2002, 10:48 PM	#2
Duque NetShrine's Desperado Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 2,638	I'm skeptical - but if he does find a way to factor in offense and defense that works, it should be interesting. It'll be nice to see how he actually arrived at Craig Biggio as the 4th best 2B of all-time, for example. __________________ Bad Andy It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

01-31-2002, 10:56 PM	#3
Xanadu Dragon NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 2,704	Will let you know - in case I get it first. BTW, congrats on passing the 1,000 mark. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator PLEASE READ: Community Standards . : ~ : PLEASE SHOP: Our Stuff! : ~ : HOW CAN YOU: Help? : ~ : BE NICE: To Your Fav Baseball Person.

02-01-2002, 10:58 AM	#4
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Having read the first 700 pages of James new Baseball Abstract it is no stretch to guess that the method of calculating win-shares is going almost incomprehensible to anyone who isn't a serious statistician. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

02-01-2002, 11:33 AM	#5
Xanadu Dragon NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 2,704	Hope not - otherwise, I just wasted $19.99. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator PLEASE READ: Community Standards . : ~ : PLEASE SHOP: Our Stuff! : ~ : HOW CAN YOU: Help? : ~ : BE NICE: To Your Fav Baseball Person.

02-01-2002, 01:17 PM	#6
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	I'll bite, how did you waste $19.99 if the book is not coming out until March? __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

02-01-2002, 01:30 PM	#7
Xanadu Dragon NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 2,704	I had already ordered the STATS Scoreboard - and when they called to say it was no longer coming out, they offered to switch the order to the BJ WS book. I said yes. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator PLEASE READ: Community Standards . : ~ : PLEASE SHOP: Our Stuff! : ~ : HOW CAN YOU: Help? : ~ : BE NICE: To Your Fav Baseball Person.

02-01-2002, 06:44 PM	#8
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	I'm just soso excited that we all get to finally spend our money on a book containing information that should have been in the NHBA. Its hard for me to get past the thought that this is a marketing flimflam to sell two books instead of one. Guess I am a cynic. Hopefully the methodology will be so clean that there's no doubt of the legitimacy of it's perspective (even if you disagree with it). I hear Pete Rose is taking odds.

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