Don Kessinger

nyy26wc · 07-24-2007, 11:13 AM

Don Kessinger played in the majors from 1964 to 1979.

nyy26wc · 07-24-2007, 11:15 AM

Belongs in InfamyShrine

-305 RCAA
8 years with -20 or less RCAA
3 years with -30 or less RCAA over a 4 year period
OPS -.086 vs. the league average

rc3000 · 07-24-2007, 11:57 AM

I think there is gonna be a lot of Shortstops in the InfamyShrine.

nyy26wc · 07-24-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rc3000

I think there is gonna be a lot of Shortstops in the InfamyShrine.

That is the only reasonable conclusion from the data.

I don't see anything wrong with that any more than I see a problem with a lot of women being in the maternity wards.

crazydiamond · 07-27-2007, 01:45 AM

while I agree there's nothing wrong with it, comparing them to women in maternity wards is akin to saying 99% of people who play shortstop are biologically designed to being horrible at the plate

nyy26wc · 07-27-2007, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crazydiamond

while I agree there's nothing wrong with it, comparing them to women in maternity wards is akin to saying 99% of people who play shortstop are biologically designed to being horrible at the plate

I don't think akin to saying they are biologically designated. It just means that, it is a fact that there is a silly "common knowledge" that there is something special about that little area of the field that makes it acceptable to put bad players there.

To deny their inepitude is to deny reality.

KCBOOMER · 07-31-2007, 09:56 AM

Kessinger was a very weak offensive player, but was highly regarded as an SS in his day.

YankeeLinks · 08-05-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOOMER

Kessinger was a very weak offensive player, but was highly regarded as an SS in his day.

That's my recollection, too, Boomer. To wit, he was a 6 time All Star.

nyy26wc · 08-05-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeLinks

To wit, he was a 6 time All Star.

There was stupidity in the selections for the some star game in 1933.
There was stupidity in the selections for the some star game in 1934.
There was stupidity in the selections for the some star game in 1935.
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There was stupidity in the selections for the some star game in 1979.
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There was stupidity in the selections for the some star game in 2005.
There was stupidity in the selections for the some star game in 2006.
There was stupidity in the selections for the some star game in 2007.

How many years of stupidity are needed for people to realize it?

YankeeLinks · 08-05-2007, 10:47 PM

Lee, you've missed the point. Boomer wrote that Kessinger was "highly regarded as a SS in his day." I concurred, and used the AS selections as evidence that in fact he was "highly regarded."

You are welcome to your opinion that the folks who select AS players are stupid, but a six-time AS was certainly "highly regarded" in his day - meritorious or not.

nyy26wc · 08-05-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeLinks

Lee, you've missed the point. Boomer wrote that Kessinger was "highly regarded as a SS in his day." I concurred, and used the AS selections as evidence that in fact he was "highly regarded."

You are welcome to your opinion that the folks who select AS players are stupid, but a six-time AS was certainly "highly regarded" in his day - meritorious or not.

If being selected to the some star game = "highly regarded" then highly regarded is a meaningless term.

crazydiamond · 08-06-2007, 01:24 AM

highly regarded means many people held his ability in high regard
since he was 6 times voted by many people to the all-star game, that indicates that many people held his ability in high regard
whether they were incorrect or not is not the point, the point is that they did and the fact that they voted him into the all-star game proves that

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07-24-2007, 11:13 AM	#1
nyy26wc NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 14,584	Don Kessinger Don Kessinger played in the majors from 1964 to 1979. __________________ Lee Creator, Complete Baseball Encyclopedia. It's powerful, yet extremely easy to use. Features extensive sorting and stat display options. The CBE has many features that are not available in online and printed sources. Has 2006 stats and daily update service for 2007.

07-24-2007, 11:15 AM	#2
nyy26wc NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 14,584	Belongs in InfamyShrine -305 RCAA 8 years with -20 or less RCAA 3 years with -30 or less RCAA over a 4 year period OPS -.086 vs. the league average __________________ Lee Creator, Complete Baseball Encyclopedia. It's powerful, yet extremely easy to use. Features extensive sorting and stat display options. The CBE has many features that are not available in online and printed sources. Has 2006 stats and daily update service for 2007.

07-24-2007, 11:57 AM	#3
rc3000 Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 543	I think there is gonna be a lot of Shortstops in the InfamyShrine. __________________ Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth - Roberto Clemente

07-31-2007, 09:56 AM	#7
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Kessinger was a very weak offensive player, but was highly regarded as an SS in his day. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

07-27-2007, 01:45 AM	#5
crazydiamond Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 935	while I agree there's nothing wrong with it, comparing them to women in maternity wards is akin to saying 99% of people who play shortstop are biologically designed to being horrible at the plate

08-05-2007, 10:47 PM	#10
YankeeLinks NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Home of 27 World Championships Posts: 2,862	Lee, you've missed the point. Boomer wrote that Kessinger was "highly regarded as a SS in his day." I concurred, and used the AS selections as evidence that in fact he was "highly regarded." You are welcome to your opinion that the folks who select AS players are stupid, but a six-time AS was certainly "highly regarded" in his day - meritorious or not.

08-06-2007, 01:24 AM	#12
crazydiamond Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 935	highly regarded means many people held his ability in high regard since he was 6 times voted by many people to the all-star game, that indicates that many people held his ability in high regard whether they were incorrect or not is not the point, the point is that they did and the fact that they voted him into the all-star game proves that

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