Carl Yastrzemski vs. Rafael Palmeiro

Crash Course · 08-03-2005, 10:36 AM

Offensively, who was better?

Deep Blue · 08-03-2005, 05:58 PM

Going from memory, and not having access to the stats at the moment, my money (as well as my admitted Red Sox bias) is on Yastrzemski. Played in a far more difficult hitter's era. Led his league in a number of categories, in different years. Had a higher peak (1967 was an ubelievable year, offensively and defensively), lasted longer. They both played in relative hitter's parks.

KCBOOMER · 08-04-2005, 09:01 AM

Right now I don't think Palmeiro's mother would vote for him. I'll go with Yaz due to better peak and playing in a brutal pitching era.

mainsr · 08-04-2005, 12:44 PM

League- and park-adjusted, Steroid Boy's lifetime OPS is 32% above the league average, while Mr. XYZ's is +30%. But the problem with an analysis of averages is that Yaz had 1762 league-average at-bats after turning 40, which is a lot more than Palmiero is likely to accumulate. So I'll go with Yaz, who also had 4 years in which he was more than 50% better than the league (65, 67, 68, 70) compared to 2 for Palmiero (91, 99).

Fun fact: League- and park-adjusted, Yaz' 1968 (.301, 23 HR, 74 RBI in 539 AB) is slightly ahead of Sosa's 2000 (.320, 50, 138 in 604 AB).

Makofan · 08-04-2005, 01:50 PM

Also since they played different positions I hate these kind of questions - just ruins the premise of Steve's book for me. Now comparing Yaz to Fred Clarke would be interesting, or Raffy to Jim Bottomley

Crash Course · 08-04-2005, 02:43 PM

Note, that's why I asked "Offensively."

08-03-2005, 10:36 AM	#1
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Carl Yastrzemski vs. Rafael Palmeiro Offensively, who was better? __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

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KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Right now I don't think Palmeiro's mother would vote for him. I'll go with Yaz due to better peak and playing in a brutal pitching era. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

08-04-2005, 12:44 PM	#4
mainsr NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 1,557	League- and park-adjusted, Steroid Boy's lifetime OPS is 32% above the league average, while Mr. XYZ's is +30%. But the problem with an analysis of averages is that Yaz had 1762 league-average at-bats after turning 40, which is a lot more than Palmiero is likely to accumulate. So I'll go with Yaz, who also had 4 years in which he was more than 50% better than the league (65, 67, 68, 70) compared to 2 for Palmiero (91, 99). Fun fact: League- and park-adjusted, Yaz' 1968 (.301, 23 HR, 74 RBI in 539 AB) is slightly ahead of Sosa's 2000 (.320, 50, 138 in 604 AB). __________________ "Let's let bye-byes be bye-byes." --The Greatest Leadoff Hitter of All Time

08-04-2005, 02:43 PM	#6
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Note, that's why I asked "Offensively." __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

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08-03-2005, 05:58 PM	#2
Deep Blue All-NetShrine Team Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 361	Going from memory, and not having access to the stats at the moment, my money (as well as my admitted Red Sox bias) is on Yastrzemski. Played in a far more difficult hitter's era. Led his league in a number of categories, in different years. Had a higher peak (1967 was an ubelievable year, offensively and defensively), lasted longer. They both played in relative hitter's parks.

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Makofan Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 791	Also since they played different positions I hate these kind of questions - just ruins the premise of Steve's book for me. Now comparing Yaz to Fred Clarke would be interesting, or Raffy to Jim Bottomley

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