Baseball Steroids on Congress Agenda

Crash Course · 03-07-2005, 12:17 PM

I just saw this report that said:

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Just two weeks before opening day, some of baseball's biggest names will be far from the field, answering questions under oath about what they've seen, and what they've used.

So far, former player and MVP Jose Canseco is the only one to say he'll be there voluntarily. Jason Giambi, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa, and Frank Thomas, as well as baseball Commissioner Bud Selig and the head of the player's union, Don Fehr, could be forced to testify.

Palmeiro declined, saying the hearings fall on his wife's birthday. And Giambi, who played with Canseco on the Oakland A's, says it's highly unlikely he'll go.

The rest, including Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, are undecided, and clearly uncomfortable with the idea.

I can understand why they would want Canseco, Giambi, Hurt, Sammy, Mac and Raffy........but, why Schilling?

Is it just because of his star status? Why not Clemens or Unit? Is there something that I'm missing here?

Joseph · 03-07-2005, 01:13 PM

I wonder more about Thomas, he's never been connected in any way to steriods.

Crash Course · 03-07-2005, 05:19 PM

There are many like that - someone on the radio the other day said Todd Hundley - and, it make sense - - - got big fast, had the HR surge, then the ligaments started to go...............

I think Congress should go after more retired players - they might get more truth. Less to lose.

Crash Course · 03-09-2005, 10:49 AM

Now it's being reported that they will be forced to testify - but none of the reports have Barry Bonds on the list of those who will be chased after..........why?

March 17th could be an interesting day.

Crash Course · 03-09-2005, 11:55 AM

An interesting theory - albeit discounted in the offering - http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/11086672.htm

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Barry Bonds. No, he's not on the current list of potential witnesses. The speculation: All those called to testify will be granted immunity from prosecution. And if Bonds is granted that immunity, he would be safe from any perjury charges that could arise from his previous testimony before the Balco grand jury. However, perjury charges are notoriously hard to prove, so it seems stupid to exclude the most famous face connected to this issue.

Makofan · 03-09-2005, 01:06 PM

Perhaps Bonds is excluded because he has already testified under oath??? And of course what he testified to under oath before a sealed Grand Jury is private and thus we should not know its contents

Crash Course · 03-09-2005, 02:18 PM

Then why have Giambi there?

Crash Course · 03-11-2005, 10:25 AM

Now they're playing chicken with each other: http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.p...105c1_steroids

KCBOOMER · 03-11-2005, 11:34 AM

Nobody has a clue as to what Congress is after with these subpoenas. Baseball has already toughened up its steroids testing program and both the players and management seem to think that it is working. What more can you want??

tyruschen · 03-11-2005, 05:44 PM

IMHO, I guess what they want is to get the impression that the congressmen care about what's happen to national pastime. Although their steps has delayed for at least 20 years.

Crash Course · 03-12-2005, 11:13 PM

Now Big Mac.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2011689

Well, duh.

Crash Course · 03-14-2005, 11:26 AM

I'm starting to think that baseball got lucky with the timing on this - had it been Feb. or April, it would have been the lead story on all the sports talk stuff. Now, thanks to March Madness, it's the second story, at best.

captain_napalm · 03-14-2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Course

Then why have Giambi there?

Perhaps they wanted Jeremy instead?

Crash Course · 03-14-2005, 12:48 PM

Interesting take on this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7012320/#050311a

KCBOOMER · 03-14-2005, 03:25 PM

Fay Vincent had a good take on this. He says that baseball should take this as an opportunity to step in front of Congress and show them what they are doing about the issue. Foucs on the future rather than the past. This is certainly a better idea than whining about it.

If Congress wants to make a big deal over worrying about the past let them dig for it.

03-07-2005, 05:19 PM	#3
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	There are many like that - someone on the radio the other day said Todd Hundley - and, it make sense - - - got big fast, had the HR surge, then the ligaments started to go............... I think Congress should go after more retired players - they might get more truth. Less to lose. __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

03-09-2005, 10:49 AM	#4
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Now it's being reported that they will be forced to testify - but none of the reports have Barry Bonds on the list of those who will be chased after..........why? March 17th could be an interesting day. __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

03-09-2005, 02:18 PM	#7
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Then why have Giambi there? __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

03-11-2005, 10:25 AM	#8
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Now they're playing chicken with each other: http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.p...105c1_steroids __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

03-11-2005, 11:34 AM	#9
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Nobody has a clue as to what Congress is after with these subpoenas. Baseball has already toughened up its steroids testing program and both the players and management seem to think that it is working. What more can you want?? __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

03-07-2005, 01:13 PM	#2
Joseph Guest Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Home of the Saltdogs Posts: 441	I wonder more about Thomas, he's never been connected in any way to steriods.

03-09-2005, 01:06 PM	#6
Makofan Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 791	Perhaps Bonds is excluded because he has already testified under oath??? And of course what he testified to under oath before a sealed Grand Jury is private and thus we should not know its contents

03-11-2005, 05:44 PM	#10
tyruschen Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Taiwan Posts: 533	IMHO, I guess what they want is to get the impression that the congressmen care about what's happen to national pastime. Although their steps has delayed for at least 20 years. __________________ I'm a fanatic MLB fan from Taiwan and I fear you would'nt understand my bad English. Thanks a lot for reading.

03-12-2005, 11:13 PM	#11
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Now Big Mac. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2011689 Well, duh. __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

03-14-2005, 11:26 AM	#12
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	I'm starting to think that baseball got lucky with the timing on this - had it been Feb. or April, it would have been the lead story on all the sports talk stuff. Now, thanks to March Madness, it's the second story, at best. __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

03-14-2005, 12:48 PM	#14
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Interesting take on this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7012320/#050311a __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

03-14-2005, 03:25 PM	#15
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Fay Vincent had a good take on this. He says that baseball should take this as an opportunity to step in front of Congress and show them what they are doing about the issue. Foucs on the future rather than the past. This is certainly a better idea than whining about it. If Congress wants to make a big deal over worrying about the past let them dig for it. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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