Livan's One Phat Picture

Crash Course · 01-26-2005, 01:20 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/column...lan&id=1974169

Think he moves to a contender this July?

nyy26wc · 01-26-2005, 03:10 PM

Over the past 5 years, Hernandez has faced more than 300 batters more than the closest competition--

Code:

BATTERS FACED                   BFP    
1    Livan Hernandez            4979   
T2   Bartolo Colon              4601   
T2   Javier Vazquez             4601   
4    Tim Hudson                 4570   
5    Tom Glavine                4552   
6    Greg Maddux                4532   
7    Russ Ortiz                 4501   
8    Jeff Suppan                4490   
T9   Randy Johnson              4483   
T9   Curt Schilling             4483

Crash Course · 01-26-2005, 03:52 PM

Isn't IP a better way to look at this?
I mean, Felix Heredia faced as many batters as Billy Wagner last year - but, that doesn't mean he anywhere near the same value, no?

Code:

SEASON
2004

RSAA displayed only--not a sorting criteria
BATTERS FACED = 182

RSAA                           RSAA     RSAA      BFP    
1    Billy Wagner                 10       10      182   
2    Arthur Rhodes                -2       -2      182   
3    Felix Heredia                -8       -8      182

nyy26wc · 01-26-2005, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Course

Isn't IP a better way to look at this?

My point was to emphasize how big his workload was. The ESPN article you linked to didn't sufficiently demonstrate how huge it has been. And, for workload, BFP is a better measure than IP.

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01-26-2005, 03:52 PM	#3
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Isn't IP a better way to look at this? I mean, Felix Heredia faced as many batters as Billy Wagner last year - but, that doesn't mean he anywhere near the same value, no? Code: SEASON 2004 RSAA displayed only--not a sorting criteria BATTERS FACED = 182 RSAA RSAA RSAA BFP 1 Billy Wagner 10 10 182 2 Arthur Rhodes -2 -2 182 3 Felix Heredia -8 -8 182 __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

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