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Old 11-13-2004, 08:31 AM   #1
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Just a quick note on this Boomer - you really want Kevin Brown in your HOF?
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It seems like the current HoF (for both pitchers and otherwise) gives discounts to some players who, though their overall records may not quite be on par with the average HoF, nevertheless did one specific thing extraordinarily well, or had some unbelievable and unique record/achievement. Nolan Ryan would be one of those guys. Eckersley, too. The Wiz of Oz, in a way. Rickey (eventually) is debatably one, too, I'd say.

I think this is a good thing, though. I like guys who can claim to be "The Only Man In Major League History To Have Done This." The problem is, it puts a major kink in any attempt to statistically determine who "belongs" and who doesn't. That said, that's as good a list of pitchers I've ever seen. But Eck's gotta be in there.
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Also, this is ignoring the Satch Paige/negro leagues problem, too.
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Just a quick note on this Boomer - you really want Kevin Brown in your HOF?
I Concur. Brown? Mussina? (I used to think Mussina was going to make it, but no longer do).

Overall good, but there needs to be a way for relievers to make it, Rivera, Eck, Gossage. Those you excluded, other than Robin Roberts and Eck are good exclusions.
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Just a quick note on this Boomer - you really want Kevin Brown in your HOF?


I can't say I am a fan of his (does this make me an honorary Yankee Fan??) but the numbers say he is worth consideration. He certainly is better than most of the guys I dropped.

My study doesn't embrace the Negro Leaguers for the obvious reason (no stats). As a staunch supporter of the Negro League Hall of Fame here in KC I can guarantee I would never countence the idea of removing the Negro Leaguers. They way they are elected simply has to use a different procedure.
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