2004 All Star Team Selections Discussion

RascalJones · 07-04-2004, 09:18 PM

Beginning of the year, who would have predicted that the Indians would have 4 all stars? And that they would be more than "mercy" picks?
Way to go Torre! I'm kind of surprised he took Victor Martinez over Jorge Posada, but if you've read my posts, you know I've been stumping for Victor for a month or more now.

Crash Course · 07-04-2004, 11:03 PM

According to the * here, Torre didn't pick Martinez.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1834325

He was chosen by a vote of the players, coaches and managers.

When did baseball start doing that?

RascalJones · 07-05-2004, 09:26 AM

I guess I didn't see that *. It's been in effect for a couple seasons now. I kind of forgot about it, however.

Ytown Tribe fan · 07-05-2004, 03:47 PM

I'm happy that Vic and Ronnie made the team, but I don't believe they are All-Stars -- yet. But that's just MY definition of an All-Star: a player who has proven himself to be among the very best at his position. A guy who is basically a rookie (but not officially) hasn't "proven" anything yet, except that he's had a great first half and looks like he will be a fine player for years. Well, when that happens, he should THEN be an All-Star.

CC is a fine pick, since he has a few fine years under his belt. Belliard is probably still being called "Rafael" by out-of-town announcers. He's off to a good start with the Tribe, and he hustles and looks good out there, but I wouldn't call him an All-Star.

To me, the Tribe has a bunch of fine players who look like they will be All-Stars in a few years. Jody Gerut, Cliff Lee, Jake Westbrook, and a bunch of guys in AA who are a couple more years away.

sweaver · 07-05-2004, 08:48 PM

The player vote is new this year.

07-04-2004, 09:18 PM	#1
RascalJones NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,862	2004 All Star Team Selections Discussion Beginning of the year, who would have predicted that the Indians would have 4 all stars? And that they would be more than "mercy" picks? Way to go Torre! I'm kind of surprised he took Victor Martinez over Jorge Posada, but if you've read my posts, you know I've been stumping for Victor for a month or more now. __________________ "Baseball is dull only to dull minds." -- Red Barber, announcer "The biggest thrill a ballplayer can have is when your son takes after you. That happened when my Bobby was in his championship Little League game. He really showed me something. Struck out three times. Made an error that lost the game. Parents were throwing things at our car and swearing at us as we drove off. Gosh, I was proud." -- Bob Uecker

07-04-2004, 11:03 PM	#2
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	According to the * here, Torre didn't pick Martinez. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1834325 He was chosen by a vote of the players, coaches and managers. When did baseball start doing that? __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

07-05-2004, 09:26 AM	#3
RascalJones NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,862	I guess I didn't see that *. It's been in effect for a couple seasons now. I kind of forgot about it, however. __________________ "Baseball is dull only to dull minds." -- Red Barber, announcer "The biggest thrill a ballplayer can have is when your son takes after you. That happened when my Bobby was in his championship Little League game. He really showed me something. Struck out three times. Made an error that lost the game. Parents were throwing things at our car and swearing at us as we drove off. Gosh, I was proud." -- Bob Uecker

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07-05-2004, 03:47 PM	#4
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	I'm happy that Vic and Ronnie made the team, but I don't believe they are All-Stars -- yet. But that's just MY definition of an All-Star: a player who has proven himself to be among the very best at his position. A guy who is basically a rookie (but not officially) hasn't "proven" anything yet, except that he's had a great first half and looks like he will be a fine player for years. Well, when that happens, he should THEN be an All-Star. CC is a fine pick, since he has a few fine years under his belt. Belliard is probably still being called "Rafael" by out-of-town announcers. He's off to a good start with the Tribe, and he hustles and looks good out there, but I wouldn't call him an All-Star. To me, the Tribe has a bunch of fine players who look like they will be All-Stars in a few years. Jody Gerut, Cliff Lee, Jake Westbrook, and a bunch of guys in AA who are a couple more years away.

07-05-2004, 08:48 PM	#5
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	The player vote is new this year.

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