Foulke Flag Flap

Crash Course · 07-03-2004, 09:56 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1833877

Not shocked. It's not the first time. IIRC, Biggio was once told to take off his Sunshine Kids pin on his cap. Pretty sure that Billy Martin was told that he could not wear a cross pin in the "Y" space in his Yankee cap.

Actually, Foulke should do what Ortiz does. IIRC, David Ortiz has a patch of the DR flag on his glove. Small, but it's there - unless my eyes are shot.

Why not do the same?

Makofan · 07-03-2004, 11:46 PM

Yet another application of my 90% theory

Ytown Tribe fan · 07-04-2004, 10:19 AM

Here's what Foulke is really complaining about: the gag order. He should quit whining, wear the flag like ALL players will today, then shut up and pitch.

His old man is fighing overseas, and Foulke is making millions playing a kid's game, and whining about personal expression. And his dad will be reading about it in Stars & Stripes -- overseas edition. Sheesh!

nyy26wc · 07-04-2004, 10:43 AM

MLB made the right decision. Foulke was using his cap to make a political statement.

I'm certain that, if any player chose to use his cap to make the opposite statement, there would have been an outcry to force him to stop.

Crash Course · 07-04-2004, 11:53 AM

After all, they call it a "uniform" for a reason - so that everyone looks the same.

Imagine what would happen to Foulke's dad if he wanted to wear a patch on his military uniform, in support of his son, that had the Red Sox on it.........

Ytown Tribe fan · 07-04-2004, 01:19 PM

Steve -- they'd probably not give him too much grief about it.

Overseas, the military is somewhat looser than stateside. I worked with a guy who had some big hair (think Oscar Gamble) and packed it down when he was in uniform. When he got stateside, his first shirt got him high and tight in a hurry.

KCBOOMER · 07-06-2004, 04:32 PM

MLB is right on this one. The only reason this is causing a flap is that most of us approve of the Foulke's sentiment. If he went out there with a Swastika or KKK symbol we would be going nuts.

As a business MLB has to protect its brand by staying away from individual political statements by its players.

KCBOOMER · 07-06-2004, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makofan

Yet another application of my 90% theory

What you are referring to is "Sturgeon's Law" and it precedes you by decades.

07-03-2004, 09:56 PM	#1
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Foulke Flag Flap http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1833877 Not shocked. It's not the first time. IIRC, Biggio was once told to take off his Sunshine Kids pin on his cap. Pretty sure that Billy Martin was told that he could not wear a cross pin in the "Y" space in his Yankee cap. Actually, Foulke should do what Ortiz does. IIRC, David Ortiz has a patch of the DR flag on his glove. Small, but it's there - unless my eyes are shot. Why not do the same? __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

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nyy26wc NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 14,584	MLB made the right decision. Foulke was using his cap to make a political statement. I'm certain that, if any player chose to use his cap to make the opposite statement, there would have been an outcry to force him to stop. __________________ Lee Creator, Complete Baseball Encyclopedia. It's powerful, yet extremely easy to use. Features extensive sorting and stat display options. The CBE has many features that are not available in online and printed sources. Has 2006 stats and daily update service for 2007.

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Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	After all, they call it a "uniform" for a reason - so that everyone looks the same. Imagine what would happen to Foulke's dad if he wanted to wear a patch on his military uniform, in support of his son, that had the Red Sox on it......... __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

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KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	MLB is right on this one. The only reason this is causing a flap is that most of us approve of the Foulke's sentiment. If he went out there with a Swastika or KKK symbol we would be going nuts. As a business MLB has to protect its brand by staying away from individual political statements by its players. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Here's what Foulke is really complaining about: the gag order. He should quit whining, wear the flag like ALL players will today, then shut up and pitch. His old man is fighing overseas, and Foulke is making millions playing a kid's game, and whining about personal expression. And his dad will be reading about it in Stars & Stripes -- overseas edition. Sheesh!

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Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Steve -- they'd probably not give him too much grief about it. Overseas, the military is somewhat looser than stateside. I worked with a guy who had some big hair (think Oscar Gamble) and packed it down when he was in uniform. When he got stateside, his first shirt got him high and tight in a hurry.

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