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| View Poll Results: Keith Hernandez or John Olerud? | |||
| Keith Hernandez |
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5 | 22.73% |
| John Olerud |
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9 | 40.91% |
| Hernandez for peak, Olerud for career |
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5 | 22.73% |
| Olerud for peak, Hernandez for career |
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3 | 13.64% |
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Two lefty first basemen.....who was/is better?
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very similar players with the bat:
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Olerud better.
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About equal at the plate, slight edge to Hernandez with the glove. I chose Hernandez. Plus Olreud was never on Seinfeld!
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Mex was just a little more consistent than Olie. John had some big years - 1993 and 1998 - that inflate his career numbers a bit.
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I picked Olerud, but Hernandez was better defensively. If this were a position other than 1B, that defensive edge would suffice to move Hernandez up over Olerud
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Olerud is a nice player who has quietly compiled some excellent stats.
Hernandez's numbers are basically just as good, allowing for differences in era, but more relevantly he just seems like a more consequential player. This is mostly gut feel, but I think it's clearly Mex. |
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I prefer Olerud who has been one of the fine overlooked players of his era.
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Even though I love Johnny O, I have to pick Keith for career. John, however, wins peak value rather handily because of his two monster years.
Olerud's been an overlooked player, definitely, but I overlooked Keith even more. I only just realized how good of a hitter he was, and thus only just understood why he's been on the HOF ballot all of these years. I can't really explanate the vote without frivolous usage of RCAP...since I'm the only person who actually has a use for the stat, I'll save y'all the analysis. |
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Olerud 1993 for peak
Mex for career
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Hernandez. Johnny O is just so slooowwwww
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Hernandez wasn't exactly a speed demon either.
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I guess I'm thinking of the 98 career Stolen Bases vs Ollie's 11 |
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Olerud's approaching the record for worst SB, vs. the league average, among 1B. He's been at least -7 vs. the league every year of his career, except for a -6 season in 1996. Meanwhile, Hernandez is also in the top 20.
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But, Olerud's still the better player.
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