Keith Hernandez or John Olerud?

sweaver · 02-23-2004, 10:26 AM

Two lefty first basemen.....who was/is better?

gyb13 · 02-23-2004, 02:16 PM

very similar players with the bat:

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1974-2003 1B
AVERAGE vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
OBA vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
SLG vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
PLATE APPEARANCES displayed only--not a sorting criteria

RCAA                           RCAA      AVG      OBA      SLG      PA     
1    Mark McGwire                667    -.003     .059     .175     7602   
2    Jeff Bagwell                663     .031     .071     .126     8629   
3    Frank Thomas                505     .063     .112     .190     4089   
4    Eddie Murray                494     .027     .038     .086    10382   
5    Will Clark                  473     .037     .048     .086     8283   
6    Fred McGriff                470     .019     .041     .096     9732   
7    Rafael Palmeiro             454     .023     .036     .104     8694   
8    Jason Giambi                425     .034     .083     .129     4664   
9    Jim Thome                   398     .012     .073     .152     4432   
10   John Olerud                 382     .030     .064     .048     7950   
11   Carlos Delgado              377     .020     .065     .145     4644   
12   Keith Hernandez             363     .032     .054     .045     8553

slight advantage to Olerud

JamesI · 02-23-2004, 02:27 PM

Olerud better.

TGwynn19 · 02-23-2004, 03:22 PM

About equal at the plate, slight edge to Hernandez with the glove. I chose Hernandez. Plus Olreud was never on Seinfeld!

Crash Course · 02-23-2004, 03:50 PM

Code:

ALL LEAGUES & TEAMS
1974-2003
1B
RCAA >= 25


1    Jeff Bagwell             12   
2    Eddie Murray             11   
3    Mark McGwire             10   
T4   Rafael Palmeiro           9   
T4   Fred McGriff              9   
T6   Will Clark                8   
T6   Keith Hernandez           8   
T8   Jim Thome                 7   
T8   Frank Thomas              7   
T10  Jason Giambi              6   
T10  Carlos Delgado            6   
T10  John Olerud               6   
T10  Don Mattingly             6   
T10  Mo Vaughn                 6

Mex was just a little more consistent than Olie. John had some big years - 1993 and 1998 - that inflate his career numbers a bit.

pwdennis · 02-24-2004, 09:16 AM

I picked Olerud, but Hernandez was better defensively. If this were a position other than 1B, that defensive edge would suffice to move Hernandez up over Olerud

View Poll Results: Keith Hernandez or John Olerud?
Keith Hernandez	5	22.73%
John Olerud	9	40.91%
Hernandez for peak, Olerud for career	5	22.73%
Olerud for peak, Hernandez for career	3	13.64%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

02-23-2004, 10:26 AM	#1
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Keith Hernandez or John Olerud? Two lefty first basemen.....who was/is better?

02-23-2004, 03:50 PM	#5
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,067	Code: ALL LEAGUES & TEAMS 1974-2003 1B RCAA >= 25 1 Jeff Bagwell 12 2 Eddie Murray 11 3 Mark McGwire 10 T4 Rafael Palmeiro 9 T4 Fred McGriff 9 T6 Will Clark 8 T6 Keith Hernandez 8 T8 Jim Thome 7 T8 Frank Thomas 7 T10 Jason Giambi 6 T10 Carlos Delgado 6 T10 John Olerud 6 T10 Don Mattingly 6 T10 Mo Vaughn 6 Mex was just a little more consistent than Olie. John had some big years - 1993 and 1998 - that inflate his career numbers a bit. __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

02-24-2004, 09:16 AM	#6
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	I picked Olerud, but Hernandez was better defensively. If this were a position other than 1B, that defensive edge would suffice to move Hernandez up over Olerud __________________ "I would submit that if the world survives for a million years, perhaps its finest hour may be that in the last half of the 20th century, when the power to blow up the world rested in the hands of a few men in two very unsophisticated and suspicious countries, we didn't do it, and one American, Richard Nixon, moved the cold war away from permanent confrontation toward victory. How could any wrong that he did compare with that?" - John Sears

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02-23-2004, 02:27 PM	#3
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	Olerud better.

02-23-2004, 03:22 PM	#4
TGwynn19 Guest Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,087	About equal at the plate, slight edge to Hernandez with the glove. I chose Hernandez. Plus Olreud was never on Seinfeld!

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