A couple of more NY moves

nyy26wc · 12-13-2001, 02:19 PM

The Yankees have traded P Jay Witasick to the Giants for OF John Vander Wal.

The Mets have a 2:30 press conference to announce the signing of free agent P David Weathers.

SmedIndy · 12-13-2001, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by nyy26wc
The Yankees have traded P Jay Witasick to the Giants for OF John Vander Wal.

Why would the Giants do this? Why? Vander Wal was disappointing, sure, but for Witasick???

The Mets have a 2:30 press conference to announce the signing of free agent P David Weathers.

Why? He's a journeyman's journeyman who had maybe a good four months here and there.

Gang, you can find middle relievers all over the place as six-year free agents and non-roster invitees. Man, some GMs are NUTS!

sweaver · 12-13-2001, 04:51 PM

Why, Weathers is a PV! Didn't you know?

Vander Wal is also about 37, and has no defensive value, except maybe at first. He would be a good LH DH. Witasick, with a live arm, sounds about right.

SmedIndy · 12-14-2001, 12:13 AM

Live arm my kiester.

There are a lot of AAA relievers with live arms. They go up, they flash, they burn, they play in Charlotte and Indianapolis for a while. Witasick is the same creature. Vander Wal can hit, some. It's asinine. It's trading a hard to find commodity for one you can buy at the corner drug store.

12-14-2001, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by sweaver
Why, Weathers is a PV! Didn't you know?

Again, I've been out in the log cabin way too long f/my good. What's a PV?

Skipper Steve · 12-14-2001, 07:15 AM

They got me too on PV.

Precious Veteran?

sweaver · 12-14-2001, 07:25 AM

Close, Proven Veteran. Someone with a track record, no matter how poor, in the majors.

sweaver · 12-14-2001, 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by SmedIndy
Live arm my kiester.

There are a lot of AAA relievers with live arms. They go up, they flash, they burn, they play in Charlotte and Indianapolis for a while. Witasick is the same creature. Vander Wal can hit, some. It's asinine. It's trading a hard to find commodity for one you can buy at the corner drug store.

I just went to the corner drug store (which is actually the second building from the corner, the corner store is a tobacco shop) and they were all out of Vander Wals. Still had a Witasick on the shelf, though. Control looked a little off.

SmedIndy · 12-14-2001, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Skipper Steve
They got me too on PV.

Precious Veteran?

As sweaver pointed out, PV is "Proven Veteran". Sort of like Ron Coomer, or Gerald Williams, or dare I say Todd Ziele.

Almost the same silliness as "professional hitter".

Skipper Steve · 12-14-2001, 09:59 AM

After I questioned it, I actually saw that label used in my local paper - - sort of - - - - they described him as a "veteran presence" who could pitch the 7th innning. Silly.

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sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Why, Weathers is a PV! Didn't you know? Vander Wal is also about 37, and has no defensive value, except maybe at first. He would be a good LH DH. Witasick, with a live arm, sounds about right.

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SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	Live arm my kiester. There are a lot of AAA relievers with live arms. They go up, they flash, they burn, they play in Charlotte and Indianapolis for a while. Witasick is the same creature. Vander Wal can hit, some. It's asinine. It's trading a hard to find commodity for one you can buy at the corner drug store.

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