Molitor & Eckersley Elected to HoF

KCBOOMER · 01-06-2004, 02:03 PM

They just announce live on MLB.com that Molitor and Eckerlsey were elected to the HoF. I haven't seen the voting totals.

JamesI · 01-06-2004, 02:14 PM

I saw Keith Hernandez was among 15 who did not get the required 5% to stay on the ballot. I believe Joe Carter and Fernando were also among those who will not be on next years ballot.

sweaver · 01-06-2004, 02:15 PM

Not a big surprise. Sandberg left out, Blyleven ignored again.

KCBOOMER · 01-06-2004, 02:15 PM

Near as I could glean from the live broadcast Sandberg got 61%, Sutter got 60%, and Rice got 54%. I think the four place vote getter was Rice. They did say that Joe Carter and Keith Hernandez did not get enough votes to stay on the ballot.

Jim Rice · 01-06-2004, 02:18 PM

The first press release appears to be screwed up. It skips Sutter, making it looks like Sandberg was 3rd and Rice 4th. Sutter was between them.

pwdennis · 01-06-2004, 02:19 PM

Here's the story:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1701698

KCBOOMER · 01-06-2004, 02:19 PM

Molitor got 85% and Eckersley got 83%.

sweaver · 01-06-2004, 02:21 PM

1. Molitor 2. Eckersley (both in) 3. Sandberg 4. Rice 5. Dawson 6. Gossage

WiredTiger · 01-06-2004, 02:32 PM

ELECTED
Paul Molitor 431 (85.2%)
Dennis Eckersley 421 (83.2%)

NOT ELECTED
Ryne Sandberg 309 (61.1%)
Bruce Sutter 301 (59.5%)
Jim Rice 276 (54.5%)
Andre Dawson 253 (50%)
Rich "Goose" Gossage 206 (40.7%)
Lee Smith 185 (36.6%)
Bert Blyleven 179 (35.4%)
Jack Morris 133 (26.3%)
Steve Garvey 123 (24.3%)
Tommy John 111 (21.9%)
Alan Trammell 70 (13.8%)
Don Mattingly 65 (12.8%)
Dave Concepcion 57 (11.3%)
Dave Parker 53 (10.5%)
Dale Murphy 43 (8.5%)

DROPPED FROM BALLOT
Keith Hernandez 22 (4.3%)
Joe Carter 19 (3.8%)
Fernando Valenzuela 19 (3.8%)
Dennis Martinez 16 (3.2%)
Dave Stieb 7 (1.4%)
Jim Eisenreich 3 (0%)
Jimmy Key 3 (0%)
Doug Drabek 2 (0%)
Kevin Mitchell 2 (0%)
Juan Samuel 2 (0%)
Cecil Fielder 1 (0%)
Randy Myers 1 (0%)
Terry Pendleton 1 (0%)
Danny Darwin 0 (0%)
Bob Tewksbury 0 (0%)

WiredTiger · 01-06-2004, 02:35 PM

My guess is that Sandberg gets into the HOF in the next three years. Sutter still has a shot but might not make it. Everyone else is probably going to have to go to the Veteran's commitee.

Still think the difference between Sandberg and Trammell is more perceived than real. They both should be in. Stop me if you've heard this before from me.

SmedIndy · 01-06-2004, 03:43 PM

And Sweet Lou Whitaker as well - but that's another thread.

One day, perhaps, people will wake up about Bert.

Wolf Hopper · 01-06-2004, 03:44 PM

Knowing how the voters have this thing about "being a [i]first ballot[/] HOFer" - I was surprised to see Eck get in now - - many others with better numbers were made to wait at least a year, IIRC.

WiredTiger · 01-06-2004, 04:37 PM

Eckersley and Molitor both benefited from closing out their career with very good seasons. I think they both were still fresh in the minds of the voters.

On another note... I'm pretty happy if I'm John Smoltz that Eck got in.

Endymion · 01-06-2004, 05:05 PM

I remember people leaving Hank Aaron off the HOF ballot because they didn't think anyone should be a first ball HOFer. I think folks have changed their thinking a little since then

TimmyB · 01-06-2004, 05:19 PM

No complaints about the two selected. Hopefully there won't be any hat controversies this year.

I can see Ryno getting in next year and I have a feeling Sutter and Rice will get a boost as their time runs out.

01-06-2004, 02:03 PM	#1
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Molitor & Eckersley Elected to HoF They just announce live on MLB.com that Molitor and Eckerlsey were elected to the HoF. I haven't seen the voting totals. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

01-06-2004, 02:15 PM	#4
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Near as I could glean from the live broadcast Sandberg got 61%, Sutter got 60%, and Rice got 54%. I think the four place vote getter was Rice. They did say that Joe Carter and Keith Hernandez did not get enough votes to stay on the ballot. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

01-06-2004, 02:19 PM	#6
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	Here's the story: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1701698 __________________ "I would submit that if the world survives for a million years, perhaps its finest hour may be that in the last half of the 20th century, when the power to blow up the world rested in the hands of a few men in two very unsophisticated and suspicious countries, we didn't do it, and one American, Richard Nixon, moved the cold war away from permanent confrontation toward victory. How could any wrong that he did compare with that?" - John Sears

01-06-2004, 02:19 PM	#7
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Molitor got 85% and Eckersley got 83%. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

01-06-2004, 03:44 PM	#12
Wolf Hopper NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 6,191	Knowing how the voters have this thing about "being a [i]first ballot[/] HOFer" - I was surprised to see Eck get in now - - many others with better numbers were made to wait at least a year, IIRC. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator POSTING TIP FOR THE DAY: When composing a post, think about what you would say if the intended recipient was an individual who was actually sitting just two feet in front of you, in person, rather than just some far away and anonymous audience who only can identify you as text on a PC screen - - and then write your post in that manner. It makes for remarkable and sincere discourse.

01-06-2004, 02:14 PM	#2
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I saw Keith Hernandez was among 15 who did not get the required 5% to stay on the ballot. I believe Joe Carter and Fernando were also among those who will not be on next years ballot.

01-06-2004, 02:15 PM	#3
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Not a big surprise. Sandberg left out, Blyleven ignored again.

01-06-2004, 02:18 PM	#5
Jim Rice Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 783	The first press release appears to be screwed up. It skips Sutter, making it looks like Sandberg was 3rd and Rice 4th. Sutter was between them.

01-06-2004, 02:21 PM	#8
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	1. Molitor 2. Eckersley (both in) 3. Sandberg 4. Rice 5. Dawson 6. Gossage

01-06-2004, 02:32 PM	#9
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	ELECTED Paul Molitor 431 (85.2%) Dennis Eckersley 421 (83.2%) NOT ELECTED Ryne Sandberg 309 (61.1%) Bruce Sutter 301 (59.5%) Jim Rice 276 (54.5%) Andre Dawson 253 (50%) Rich "Goose" Gossage 206 (40.7%) Lee Smith 185 (36.6%) Bert Blyleven 179 (35.4%) Jack Morris 133 (26.3%) Steve Garvey 123 (24.3%) Tommy John 111 (21.9%) Alan Trammell 70 (13.8%) Don Mattingly 65 (12.8%) Dave Concepcion 57 (11.3%) Dave Parker 53 (10.5%) Dale Murphy 43 (8.5%) DROPPED FROM BALLOT Keith Hernandez 22 (4.3%) Joe Carter 19 (3.8%) Fernando Valenzuela 19 (3.8%) Dennis Martinez 16 (3.2%) Dave Stieb 7 (1.4%) Jim Eisenreich 3 (0%) Jimmy Key 3 (0%) Doug Drabek 2 (0%) Kevin Mitchell 2 (0%) Juan Samuel 2 (0%) Cecil Fielder 1 (0%) Randy Myers 1 (0%) Terry Pendleton 1 (0%) Danny Darwin 0 (0%) Bob Tewksbury 0 (0%)

01-06-2004, 02:35 PM	#10
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	My guess is that Sandberg gets into the HOF in the next three years. Sutter still has a shot but might not make it. Everyone else is probably going to have to go to the Veteran's commitee. Still think the difference between Sandberg and Trammell is more perceived than real. They both should be in. Stop me if you've heard this before from me.

01-06-2004, 03:43 PM	#11
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	And Sweet Lou Whitaker as well - but that's another thread. One day, perhaps, people will wake up about Bert.

01-06-2004, 04:37 PM	#13
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	Eckersley and Molitor both benefited from closing out their career with very good seasons. I think they both were still fresh in the minds of the voters. On another note... I'm pretty happy if I'm John Smoltz that Eck got in.

01-06-2004, 05:05 PM	#14
Endymion NetShrine Fan Favorite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 92	I remember people leaving Hank Aaron off the HOF ballot because they didn't think anyone should be a first ball HOFer. I think folks have changed their thinking a little since then

01-06-2004, 05:19 PM	#15
TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	No complaints about the two selected. Hopefully there won't be any hat controversies this year. I can see Ryno getting in next year and I have a feeling Sutter and Rice will get a boost as their time runs out.

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