BoSox Sign Pokey Reese

KCBOOMER · 12-23-2003, 05:27 PM

Sorry, Sox fans, but the BoSox signed Pokey Reese to a one year $1M deal today. Details at: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1693167

TimmyB · 12-23-2003, 05:40 PM

And this makes sense why?

LeGrandOrange · 12-23-2003, 05:49 PM

If he's signed as a backup middle infielder, is it really a bad signing?

Well, maybe it still is, but having someone that is incredibly rangy (and still probably good at not making errors) that you can plug in late isn't a bad thing, and they got him relatively cheap too.

If he's signed to start, THEN I'll criticize. But right now, I'll have no problem with Epstein breaking from his sabermetric norm.

KCBOOMER · 12-23-2003, 06:36 PM

LGO, remember the Sox did not tender Todd Walker so, for right now, Reese is their 2B.

sweaver · 12-23-2003, 06:49 PM

With Mueller and Bellhorn on board, I figure Reese is a part-timer at best.

My favorite thing about this move is it means Pokey will not be signing with the Reds to play 2B every day.

Jim Rice · 12-23-2003, 07:09 PM

Here's hoping Youkilis is ready to play a bit, which means the Sox could have a Mueller/Bellhorn platoon at 2B and a Mueller/Youkilis platoon at 3B, with Pokey filling the role Damian Jackson played last year. If Pokey gets more than the 161 ABs Jackson got last year, then this signing just plain sucks.

manny tortolero · 12-24-2003, 09:41 AM

Reese must be a great fit for groundballers as Lowe and Fenway makes magic in the bat of a lot of players. Is not a bad move and unload money of the payroll.
Sure, for the games in Yankee St. the better spot in the lineup for Reese is leaves the pitcher hit and DH someone for him.

pwdennis · 12-24-2003, 10:10 AM

Not a bad move in that even if he is used as a regular, at least he has deensive value. Todd Walker was brutal on defense

LeGrandOrange · 12-24-2003, 02:46 PM

And paying a million for legitimate gold glove defense is not a terrible investment. I mean, that's not a bad deal.

Just because a player can't hit doesn't mean he shouldn't be signed, and especially by a good team. Good teams need defense too.

12-24-2003, 04:12 PM

It's not an awful deal for a guy who can play 2b and SS as well as he can. AS LONG as he is not asked to play too much, where his offense becomes a complete anchor around their necks. It's not as if they paid him anything real, so why not. I don't think Francona is silly enough to play him much - Bellhorn is no great shakes...but if he gets on at .344 as opposed to Pokey's .300 (maybe)....that's a lot better - he doesn't even have to go to his 2002 totals to make up for a whole lot of defensive dropoff.

clemente21 · 12-24-2003, 07:41 PM

With the rest of the Red Sox offense, Reese could bat 9th and play 2B when the Red Sox have a ground ball pitcher starting - then get pulled for Bellhorn if they need another bat in the lineup later in the game. But, I'm afraid that the Red Sox will do something really stupid like go trade Nomar in some sort of 3-way with the White Sox and Dodgers for Ordonez, and then put Reese at SS while they pursue A-Rod some more.

gyb13 · 12-24-2003, 11:39 PM

i'm with JR and Clem21 on this one.....i think he'll prob be a backup, but, with their offense, they could carry him as a #9 guy now and then...

tyruschen · 12-26-2003, 08:02 AM

Check this:
Derek Lowe's G/F stat last six years:
1998-4.58
1999-3.17
2000-3.45
2001-3.57
2002-3.46
2003-3.92
Total-3.46

His sinker is perfect fit at Fenway Park, but he really need good infield defense to back him. I think maybe Bosox will use Reese as his PERSONAL 2B.

sweaver · 12-26-2003, 09:55 AM

I just wonder if Reese's injury last year won't cause his defense to take a hit.....

clemente21 · 12-26-2003, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyruschen

I think maybe Bosox will use Reese as his PERSONAL 2B.

That would be a very good use of platooning Reese with Bellhorn and then eventually Youklis (with Mueller going to 2B). 35 starts at 2B when Lowe is starting, another 8 at SS to give Nomar a blow during long stretches of games without a day off, and a bunch of games as a defensive replacement for Bellhorn in the 9th. That would only be about 175 AB.

Unfortunately, it's more likely that Bellhorn is going to play the Damian Jackson supersub role, and Reese will start every day.

12-23-2003, 05:27 PM	#1
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	BoSox Sign Pokey Reese Sorry, Sox fans, but the BoSox signed Pokey Reese to a one year $1M deal today. Details at: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1693167 __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

12-23-2003, 06:36 PM	#4
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	LGO, remember the Sox did not tender Todd Walker so, for right now, Reese is their 2B. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

12-24-2003, 10:10 AM	#8
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	Not a bad move in that even if he is used as a regular, at least he has deensive value. Todd Walker was brutal on defense __________________ "I would submit that if the world survives for a million years, perhaps its finest hour may be that in the last half of the 20th century, when the power to blow up the world rested in the hands of a few men in two very unsophisticated and suspicious countries, we didn't do it, and one American, Richard Nixon, moved the cold war away from permanent confrontation toward victory. How could any wrong that he did compare with that?" - John Sears

12-24-2003, 07:41 PM	#11
clemente21 All-NetShrine Team Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 461	With the rest of the Red Sox offense, Reese could bat 9th and play 2B when the Red Sox have a ground ball pitcher starting - then get pulled for Bellhorn if they need another bat in the lineup later in the game. But, I'm afraid that the Red Sox will do something really stupid like go trade Nomar in some sort of 3-way with the White Sox and Dodgers for Ordonez, and then put Reese at SS while they pursue A-Rod some more. __________________ Nick "I would like to be someone who would like to be me." - Jan Nordgreen

12-24-2003, 11:39 PM	#12
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	i'm with JR and Clem21 on this one.....i think he'll prob be a backup, but, with their offense, they could carry him as a #9 guy now and then... __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

12-23-2003, 05:40 PM	#2
TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	And this makes sense why?

12-23-2003, 05:49 PM	#3
LeGrandOrange Membership Suspended 4/11/04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 3,783	If he's signed as a backup middle infielder, is it really a bad signing? Well, maybe it still is, but having someone that is incredibly rangy (and still probably good at not making errors) that you can plug in late isn't a bad thing, and they got him relatively cheap too. If he's signed to start, THEN I'll criticize. But right now, I'll have no problem with Epstein breaking from his sabermetric norm.

12-23-2003, 06:49 PM	#5
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	With Mueller and Bellhorn on board, I figure Reese is a part-timer at best. My favorite thing about this move is it means Pokey will not be signing with the Reds to play 2B every day.

12-23-2003, 07:09 PM	#6
Jim Rice Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 783	Here's hoping Youkilis is ready to play a bit, which means the Sox could have a Mueller/Bellhorn platoon at 2B and a Mueller/Youkilis platoon at 3B, with Pokey filling the role Damian Jackson played last year. If Pokey gets more than the 161 ABs Jackson got last year, then this signing just plain sucks.

12-24-2003, 09:41 AM	#7
manny tortolero NetShrine MVP Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Caracas, Venezuela Posts: 298	Reese must be a great fit for groundballers as Lowe and Fenway makes magic in the bat of a lot of players. Is not a bad move and unload money of the payroll. Sure, for the games in Yankee St. the better spot in the lineup for Reese is leaves the pitcher hit and DH someone for him.

12-24-2003, 02:46 PM	#9
LeGrandOrange Membership Suspended 4/11/04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 3,783	And paying a million for legitimate gold glove defense is not a terrible investment. I mean, that's not a bad deal. Just because a player can't hit doesn't mean he shouldn't be signed, and especially by a good team. Good teams need defense too.

12-24-2003, 04:12 PM	#10
Elmo Posts: n/a	It's not an awful deal for a guy who can play 2b and SS as well as he can. AS LONG as he is not asked to play too much, where his offense becomes a complete anchor around their necks. It's not as if they paid him anything real, so why not. I don't think Francona is silly enough to play him much - Bellhorn is no great shakes...but if he gets on at .344 as opposed to Pokey's .300 (maybe)....that's a lot better - he doesn't even have to go to his 2002 totals to make up for a whole lot of defensive dropoff.

12-26-2003, 08:02 AM	#13
tyruschen Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Taiwan Posts: 533	Check this: Derek Lowe's G/F stat last six years: 1998-4.58 1999-3.17 2000-3.45 2001-3.57 2002-3.46 2003-3.92 Total-3.46 His sinker is perfect fit at Fenway Park, but he really need good infield defense to back him. I think maybe Bosox will use Reese as his PERSONAL 2B. __________________ I'm a fanatic MLB fan from Taiwan and I fear you would'nt understand my bad English. Thanks a lot for reading.

12-26-2003, 09:55 AM	#14
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	I just wonder if Reese's injury last year won't cause his defense to take a hit.....

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