NDF 2003-04 Winter Fun - 1898 Award Winners

Wolf Hopper · 12-03-2003, 05:41 AM

For the season referenced in the subject line of this thread, who would be your pick for NL Best Batter, NL Best Pitcher, Best First Year in the NL Player, NL Manager of the Year, and NL Best Comeback Player?

Why?

WiredTiger · 12-03-2003, 12:04 PM

Best Batter: Ed Delahanty
Sliding Billy was good too but didn't play nearly as many games as Delhanty did.

Best Pitcher: Kid Nichols
31-12 with a 2.13 ERA. Nichols had another great year. Clark Griffith was a desputable second.

Best Rookie (I am going by baseball-reference's debut listing): Elmer Flick
Excellent start to a HOF career. He had a OPS+ of 156.

Best Manager: Buck Ewing
Leads the Reds to a big improvement.

sweaver · 12-03-2003, 06:02 PM

Pitching Win Shares: Kid Nichols (Boston) 44, Cy Young (Cleveland) and Jesse Tannehill (Pittsburgh) 34, Clark Griffith (Chicago) 32, Ted Lewis (Boston) 31, Doc McJames (Baltimore) and Bert Cunningham (Louisville) 30.

Players Win Shares: Jimmy Collins (Boston) 34, Billy Hamilton (Boston) and Ed Delahanty (Philadelphia) 33, Hughie Jennings (Baltimore) 32, John McGraw (Baltimore) 31, Jesse Burkett (Cleveland) and George Van Haltren (New York) 29.

For top player I'll go with the Win Shares and choose do-it-all third baseman Jimmy Collins in his best year. Collins was the greatest third baseman of the era, and a deserving Hall of Famer. For pitcher it's hard to pass up Kid Nichols, leading the league in wins and WHIP, fourth in strikeouts and second in adjusted ERA+. He even had four "saves," vital for his team's six-game pennant margin.

Top manager to Boston's Frank Selee.

Top rookie to Elmer Flick. 2nd to fellow Hall of Famer Vic Willis.

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12-03-2003, 12:04 PM	#2
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	Best Batter: Ed Delahanty Sliding Billy was good too but didn't play nearly as many games as Delhanty did. Best Pitcher: Kid Nichols 31-12 with a 2.13 ERA. Nichols had another great year. Clark Griffith was a desputable second. Best Rookie (I am going by baseball-reference's debut listing): Elmer Flick Excellent start to a HOF career. He had a OPS+ of 156. Best Manager: Buck Ewing Leads the Reds to a big improvement.

12-03-2003, 06:02 PM	#3
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Pitching Win Shares: Kid Nichols (Boston) 44, Cy Young (Cleveland) and Jesse Tannehill (Pittsburgh) 34, Clark Griffith (Chicago) 32, Ted Lewis (Boston) 31, Doc McJames (Baltimore) and Bert Cunningham (Louisville) 30. Players Win Shares: Jimmy Collins (Boston) 34, Billy Hamilton (Boston) and Ed Delahanty (Philadelphia) 33, Hughie Jennings (Baltimore) 32, John McGraw (Baltimore) 31, Jesse Burkett (Cleveland) and George Van Haltren (New York) 29. For top player I'll go with the Win Shares and choose do-it-all third baseman Jimmy Collins in his best year. Collins was the greatest third baseman of the era, and a deserving Hall of Famer. For pitcher it's hard to pass up Kid Nichols, leading the league in wins and WHIP, fourth in strikeouts and second in adjusted ERA+. He even had four "saves," vital for his team's six-game pennant margin. Top manager to Boston's Frank Selee. Top rookie to Elmer Flick. 2nd to fellow Hall of Famer Vic Willis.

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