Warren Spahn Passes

TGwynn19 · 11-24-2003, 05:51 PM

The pitcher that my Grandfather loved passed away today.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/6863100

sweaver · 11-24-2003, 06:47 PM

363 wins...and the common man's sense of humor.

Ytown Tribe fan · 11-24-2003, 08:09 PM

Spahnie led his league in Wins and Complete Games more times than any other pitcher in ML history.

TimmyB · 11-24-2003, 09:03 PM

All that... and somehow underappreciated. Great ballplayer.

Wolf Hopper · 11-24-2003, 10:23 PM

This is going to sound strange; but, I thought he was older. All of a sudden, 82 sounds too young to go. He was such a credit to the baseball community that his passing leaves a big void.

Firpo Marberry · 11-24-2003, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf Hopper

This is going to sound strange; but, I thought he was older. All of a sudden, 82 sounds too young to go. He was such a credit to the baseball community that his passing leaves a big void.

His health was so bad I thought he'd die after the '01 Hall of Fame ceremony. Either I don't know much about health, he was a tough old bird or both.

I had a long breakfast with him once. Just a straight shooter who had no trouble ripping into Nolan Ryan for being too in love with strikeouts at the expense of pitching smart and winning games, and who told a great story about nailing a fan in the chest with a baseball a la Albert Belle, but back in those days you could get away with a little fun.

Wolf Hopper · 11-25-2003, 08:08 AM

No one said it better than WS when he said "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing."

Ironically, yesterday, I was thinking of a post that I wanted to make around that statement (in another thread), and then when I got to the PC, I saw he passed and forgot about that - - I have to get to that now.

Ytown Tribe fan · 11-25-2003, 09:22 AM

Here's a nice article about Spahn, regarding Roger Clemens:

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m.../article.jhtml

Didn't win a game until he was 25, after serving in WWII, and they practically had to tear the uniform off of him. Went 23-7 at the age of 42.

Last year I opined that he was perhaps greater than Cy Young, considering the conditions under which the two pitched. I stand by that statement.

KCBOOMER · 11-25-2003, 10:08 AM

Spah was one of the true greats of the game. No pitcher accumulated more wins after 1911 than Spahn. It is very trendy to dismiss wins as a serious statistical category. Generally I agree with this, but once we start talking about careers, wins mean something (not everything but something).

Like Lefty Grove his career didn't really begin until age 25. He had seventeen straight seasons of 32 or more starts. He completed over half his starts as well as winning over half his starts. A genuine first tier HoFer.

huskerdru · 11-25-2003, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KCBOOMER

Spah was one of the true greats of the game. No pitcher accumulated more wins after 1911 than Spahn. It is very trendy to dismiss wins as a serious statistical category. Generally I agree with this, but once we start talking about careers, wins mean something (not everything but something).

Like Lefty Grove his career didn't really begin until age 25. He had seventeen straight seasons of 32 or more starts. He completed over half his starts as well as winning over half his starts. A genuine first tier HoFer.

Well said Boomer! Spahn has always been my favorite lefty hurler. Too bad they weren't awarding the Cy Young by 1953!! He averaged almost 280 IP from 47 through 63

Rajah · 12-01-2003, 10:44 PM

*sniff*sniff*

11-24-2003, 05:51 PM	#1
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Wolf Hopper NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 6,191	This is going to sound strange; but, I thought he was older. All of a sudden, 82 sounds too young to go. He was such a credit to the baseball community that his passing leaves a big void. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator POSTING TIP FOR THE DAY: When composing a post, think about what you would say if the intended recipient was an individual who was actually sitting just two feet in front of you, in person, rather than just some far away and anonymous audience who only can identify you as text on a PC screen - - and then write your post in that manner. It makes for remarkable and sincere discourse.

11-25-2003, 08:08 AM	#7
Wolf Hopper NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 6,191	No one said it better than WS when he said "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing." Ironically, yesterday, I was thinking of a post that I wanted to make around that statement (in another thread), and then when I got to the PC, I saw he passed and forgot about that - - I have to get to that now. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator POSTING TIP FOR THE DAY: When composing a post, think about what you would say if the intended recipient was an individual who was actually sitting just two feet in front of you, in person, rather than just some far away and anonymous audience who only can identify you as text on a PC screen - - and then write your post in that manner. It makes for remarkable and sincere discourse.

11-25-2003, 09:22 AM	#8
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	Here's a nice article about Spahn, regarding Roger Clemens: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m.../article.jhtml Didn't win a game until he was 25, after serving in WWII, and they practically had to tear the uniform off of him. Went 23-7 at the age of 42. Last year I opined that he was perhaps greater than Cy Young, considering the conditions under which the two pitched. I stand by that statement. Last edited by Ytown Tribe fan : 11-25-2003 at 09:26 AM.

11-25-2003, 10:08 AM	#9
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Spah was one of the true greats of the game. No pitcher accumulated more wins after 1911 than Spahn. It is very trendy to dismiss wins as a serious statistical category. Generally I agree with this, but once we start talking about careers, wins mean something (not everything but something). Like Lefty Grove his career didn't really begin until age 25. He had seventeen straight seasons of 32 or more starts. He completed over half his starts as well as winning over half his starts. A genuine first tier HoFer. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	363 wins...and the common man's sense of humor.

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