Sale of the Sox

I figured no one else started it, so I figured I'd give it a go.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...-sale-bids.htm

http://www.boston.com/sports/redsox/...13001_bids.htm (includes background info on far left under "Online Extras")
http://www.businesstoday.com/busines...ox12012001.htm

http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2001/1129/1286875.html

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas.../29/redsox_ap/

http://www.sportingnews.com/baseball...01/364397.html

http://www.sportsline.com/u/ce/multi...734_52,00.html

Any thoughts out there?

[CubFan7125]

Yogi:

Lets get to the most important matter of all - When does Duquette get fired?

[hmrsf]

is according to the Yawkey Trust, the team MUST be sold to the highest bidder. Thursday was the last day to submit bids. Why in God's name will it take 3 weeks to figure out the bottom line?

CF, who is it, John Harrington who's the owner? As soon as he can extract Duke from his lofty position and the resulting feuds w/players. As an aside, one of the members here (redsox617, who's in the team draft) is webmaster of a related site: www.duquettesucks.com/.

Duke and Carlasaurus (as he's called by some Yankee fans I know) have been called the twin cancers in Boston and I've even heard diehard Sox fans say that Duke's firing is one of the keys to the sale (not in contract terms, but in the team's going forward as a "team"). If you'd like to know more, here's a Sox site similar to this: Sons of Sam Horn.

Here's another Sox site http://www.redsoxdiehard.com/. Click on this "you may be a diehard if" link. Here's another for great Sox links. BTW, the masslive link should be: http://www.masslive.com/forums/redsox/ (they'd omitted "forums/"). These may be good sources for finding out Sox fans' views but the registration site (Sam Horn) I would imagine is more reliable than the non-registration (masslive).

Here's another link to Fenway itself from a fan's perspective, which includes stuff of the sale at bottom of URL: http://www.redsoxdiehard.com/fenway/

HM, do you have any link to the deadline of bids? I've only got this: Batter up! Sox suitors step to plate with binding bids.

[hmrsf]

Yes I have been following closely. The Boston Herald sends me the sports pages every am. 617 site is wonderful.....he has all the papers and other sites and links. It is a great one stop shop.

John Harrington is a 8% (?) owner and trusted friend of the late Tom Yawkey. He has been at the helm of the Red Soxs and manager of the Yawkey trust fund. He has been totally silent this year to the fans sheer horror. I would not want him as a friend never mind protect my best intrest.

My gut feel is the Duke will have a do nothing, no power position until the end of this contract. The new owner should not allow him to interact with people.

If I was buying 54% of the Bosoxs for 3-400,000,000....no that is not a typo......I would make part of the sale Harrington personally responsible for Everett and Duquette' s contract. He should eat it, and I pray the 'poor gentleman does not choke on it.' Oh my, that was not nice.....forgive me but I am more angry at Harrington than I am at Duquette or Everett.

HM, would you care to follow this thread more closely? I'm decent w/links but perhaps you can provide background info on Fenway's sale requirements. I've heard it was a need for a larger, newer stadium to remain competitive. The Yawkey Trust wasn't able to fund this new stadium and there was a requirement that the team be sold. If you could explain in a fan's view why the team needed to be sold, why a new stadium was required (size, capacity, age), I'd appreciate this.

BTW, I hope you like the links I've provided so far. Just a few quick web searches, that's all.

[CubFan7125]

I'm not a Sox fan but thanks for the links, I found them informative. I just think it's criminal that a G.M. can do what he has to any team. At least up here in Saint Paul Carl is messing up his own investment, but if i'm correct I don't believe Mr. Duquette has any money tied up in the Sox. Summed up my major problem with Dan Duquette is his basic incompetence & the fact that no one above him seems to give a f***.

[hmrsf]

The Yawkeys had no children. They ran the Red Soxs as a not for profit. All profits - expenses went to the Jimmy Fund. Written in the estate was that the Red Soxs would preferably go on and be run as a not for profit for 10 years. When no one came forward wishing to run the team as a NFP...team goes up for sale to the highest bidder and all proceeds go back to Yawkey trust.

Originally Harrington was working with the city to get a new ballpark built and felt the sale would go better if the new owner built the new park. I do not think finacing the ball park had anything to do with it. Yawkey Trust could easily afford to build the park but would it increase the profit of the sale. They must have thought not.

As a fan...and a season ticket holder...the charm of the old park is lost in the dank, expensive uncomfortable seating arangement. Fenway was a hitters park until they built the stupid 600 club above my seat. The piping system was leaking on the row behind me. (I kept thinking someone in the 600 club must be flushing.)
Many people still chant save the park (when I was young and dumb, I said the same) but we have all said goodbye....now stick a fork in her and shut off the lights.

Yes I did like the links.....son of sam horn....great site, new to me.

[CubFan7125]

I meant to add that the DuquetteSucks.com sites is absolutely fantastic. I could spend hours & hours on that site. Congrats to redsox617 on a fantastic site.

CF, glad you liked the links. I figured the Duke site would garner some merits. I've liked it when I first saw it but felt it was worth a link even w/o checking f/updates. He's also got a chat site there also. It seems well run from a true Sox fan.

Duke's problem is that he has way too much power and still doesn't seem grounded on baseball as a sport or even business itself. Ticking off Clemens and this "twilight" comment were almost as bad as when Seaver was traded (06/15/77).

As to the other Carl (Pohlad), if someone gives him some $250M buyout, I'm sure his crop is ready to bloom pretty much, and he and Bud are trying to harvest it.

[SmedIndy]

Is it just me, or are the a plethora of idiots in the GMs office??

That's probably another topic!

The Sox and Cubs deserve to play in the WS in 2002, but considering their management, they could wait as long as the Phillies did after 1915.

Smed, that's another "how low can they go" thread I'd like to see.

You mean the White Sox against the Cubs? The White Sox, of course! If referring to one New England team somewhere north of Joisey, that's already happened in "1918", but I'll try not to say that so loud. If not, HM may hear me. Shhhhhhhh.

[hmrsf]

Originally posted by SmedIndy
Is it just me, or are the a plethora of idiots in the GMs office??

That's probably another topic!

The Sox and Cubs deserve to play in the WS in 2002, but considering their management, they could wait as long as the Phillies did after 1915.

My idiot GM for your idiot GM and no backsies!!

My ears are burning, odd ringing......19 or 18 times!

I'll trade you the Duke for the idiot who signed A-Rod to his $252M deal. Anyone who does anything that crazy oughta be lined up and bullwhipped, but that's another story. Especially when the next suitor was offering much less.

I'll try getting back on target later on.