NDF 2003-04 Winter Fun - 1889 Award Winners

Wolf Hopper · 11-16-2003, 10:56 PM

For the season referenced in the subject line of this thread, who would be your pick for NL Best Batter, NL Best Pitcher, Best First Year in the NL Player, NL Manager of the Year, and NL Best Comeback Player?

Why?

LeGrandOrange · 11-17-2003, 09:00 AM

National League:
Best Batter: Roger Connor
Drove his mates in, helped himself with league-best slugging percent.

Best Pitcher: John Clarkson
The only starter of note in 1889.

Best Rookie: Patsy Tebeau
Slick fielder at the hot corner with a solid bat and durability.

Best Manager: Jim Hart
Relative no-name almost took Beaneaters to pennant in only year there.

Best Comeback: Walt Wilmot
Was one of NL's best all around hitters after average rookie year.

American Association:
Best Batter: Tommy Tucker
"Foghorn" ended AA career with the best average and the most hits.

Best Pitcher: Elton Chamberlain
The ambidextrous hurler cruised his way to his best campaign.

Best Rookie: Bug Holliday
Led the AA in homers as a rookie.

Best Manager: Bill Sharsig
Made his Athletics competitive for the first time.

Best Comeback: Jim Keenan
Unexpectedly produced at plate and behind it for Red Stockings.

sweaver · 11-17-2003, 09:12 PM

Getcher red hot Win Shares here!

NL Pitchers; John Clarkson (Boston) 60, Charlie Buffinton (Philadelphia) 33, Mickey Welch (New York) 31, Henry Boyle (Indianapolis) and Ben Sanders (Philadephia) 28 each.

NL Position players; Dan Brouthers (Boston) and Mike Tiernan (New York) 28, Jack Glasscock (Indianapolis) 27, Roger Connor (New York) 26, Hardy Richardson (Boston) and Jimmy Ryan (Chicago) 25 each.

Clarkson nearly doubled up everybody in Win Shares, leading with 620 innings which was 200 more than anyone else. It was an astounding season, and by far the best of the year. I'll pick Dan Brouthers for top player, although Fred Carroll's lead in OBA and OPS is tempting. But as a catcher (and outfielder) Fred played less. Amos Rusie had a lousy rookie season, but would become the best of the lot.

AA Pitchers; Bob Caruthers (Brooklyn, sending Caruthers back to the mound full-time) 46, Matt Kilroy (Baltimore) and Silver King (St. Louis) 44 each, Elton Chamberlain (St. Louis) 42, Jesse Duryea (Cincinnati) 37.

AA Position players; Tommy Tucker (Baltimore) and Darby O'Brien (Brooklyn) 30 each, Harry Stovey (Philadelphia) 28, Billy Shindle (Baltimore) and Tip O'Neill (St. Louis) 27 each, Oyster Burns (Brooklyn) and Denny Lyons (Philadelphia) 25 each.

Jack Stivetts was the AA's best pitcher on a per-game basis, but did not pitch that much. This is a tough pick. I'll choose Kilroy as best pitcher, and give Duryea the consolation prize as Rookie of the Year. For player I'll go with Tucker, the on-base machine of 1889.

Wolf Hopper · 11-18-2003, 08:19 AM

John Clarkson and Mike Tiernan were the NPOTY for 1889. I'll go with them, where applicable. Others to follow.

WiredTiger · 11-25-2003, 08:44 AM

Best Batter: Dan Brouthers
Another good year from one of the early stars. A case could be made for Roger Conner also.

Best Pitcher: John Clarkson
No contest. 49-19 with a 2.73 ERA.

Best Manager: Jim Hart
Led the Beaneaters to a much improved finish.

11-16-2003, 10:56 PM	#1
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11-18-2003, 08:19 AM	#4
Wolf Hopper NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 6,191	John Clarkson and Mike Tiernan were the NPOTY for 1889. I'll go with them, where applicable. Others to follow. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator POSTING TIP FOR THE DAY: When composing a post, think about what you would say if the intended recipient was an individual who was actually sitting just two feet in front of you, in person, rather than just some far away and anonymous audience who only can identify you as text on a PC screen - - and then write your post in that manner. It makes for remarkable and sincere discourse.

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11-17-2003, 09:00 AM	#2
LeGrandOrange Membership Suspended 4/11/04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 3,783	National League: Best Batter: Roger Connor Drove his mates in, helped himself with league-best slugging percent. Best Pitcher: John Clarkson The only starter of note in 1889. Best Rookie: Patsy Tebeau Slick fielder at the hot corner with a solid bat and durability. Best Manager: Jim Hart Relative no-name almost took Beaneaters to pennant in only year there. Best Comeback: Walt Wilmot Was one of NL's best all around hitters after average rookie year. American Association: Best Batter: Tommy Tucker "Foghorn" ended AA career with the best average and the most hits. Best Pitcher: Elton Chamberlain The ambidextrous hurler cruised his way to his best campaign. Best Rookie: Bug Holliday Led the AA in homers as a rookie. Best Manager: Bill Sharsig Made his Athletics competitive for the first time. Best Comeback: Jim Keenan Unexpectedly produced at plate and behind it for Red Stockings.

11-17-2003, 09:12 PM	#3
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Getcher red hot Win Shares here! NL Pitchers; John Clarkson (Boston) 60, Charlie Buffinton (Philadelphia) 33, Mickey Welch (New York) 31, Henry Boyle (Indianapolis) and Ben Sanders (Philadephia) 28 each. NL Position players; Dan Brouthers (Boston) and Mike Tiernan (New York) 28, Jack Glasscock (Indianapolis) 27, Roger Connor (New York) 26, Hardy Richardson (Boston) and Jimmy Ryan (Chicago) 25 each. Clarkson nearly doubled up everybody in Win Shares, leading with 620 innings which was 200 more than anyone else. It was an astounding season, and by far the best of the year. I'll pick Dan Brouthers for top player, although Fred Carroll's lead in OBA and OPS is tempting. But as a catcher (and outfielder) Fred played less. Amos Rusie had a lousy rookie season, but would become the best of the lot. AA Pitchers; Bob Caruthers (Brooklyn, sending Caruthers back to the mound full-time) 46, Matt Kilroy (Baltimore) and Silver King (St. Louis) 44 each, Elton Chamberlain (St. Louis) 42, Jesse Duryea (Cincinnati) 37. AA Position players; Tommy Tucker (Baltimore) and Darby O'Brien (Brooklyn) 30 each, Harry Stovey (Philadelphia) 28, Billy Shindle (Baltimore) and Tip O'Neill (St. Louis) 27 each, Oyster Burns (Brooklyn) and Denny Lyons (Philadelphia) 25 each. Jack Stivetts was the AA's best pitcher on a per-game basis, but did not pitch that much. This is a tough pick. I'll choose Kilroy as best pitcher, and give Duryea the consolation prize as Rookie of the Year. For player I'll go with Tucker, the on-base machine of 1889.

11-25-2003, 08:44 AM	#5
WiredTiger Guest Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The city of Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg Posts: 3,395	Best Batter: Dan Brouthers Another good year from one of the early stars. A case could be made for Roger Conner also. Best Pitcher: John Clarkson No contest. 49-19 with a 2.73 ERA. Best Manager: Jim Hart Led the Beaneaters to a much improved finish.

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