Curse of the WS MVP?

Wolf Hopper · 08-21-2003, 11:09 AM

Saw this: http://www.netshrine.com/vbulletin2/...ad.php?t=11378

And, it made me think - look at the last 20 years of WS MVPs - and the season or career that each had afterwards. Is there a curse of the WS MVP?

gyb13 · 08-21-2003, 11:54 AM

2002 Glaus (2003 - season ended by injury)
2001 Schilling/Johnson
2000 Jeter
1999 Rivera (2000 - his worst season, at 2.85 era)
1998 Brosius (1999 - drops from .300 to .247)
1997 Livan (1998 - mediocre first full season)
1996 Wetteland
1995 Glavine
1993 Molitor
1992 Borders (1993 - realized he was still pat borders)
1991 Morris (1992 - wins 21 gms despite being a lg avg pitcher)
1990 Rijo
1989 Stewart
1988 Hershiser
1987 Viola
1986 Knight (1987 - becomes mediocre in BAL)
1985 Saberhagen (1986 - has an off yr, but still lg avg)
1984 Trammell (1985 - has an off year, but still lg avg)
1983 Dempsey (1984 - has power surge, still crappy hitter)

so maybe half of those guys had setbacks following their mvp's....

KCBOOMER · 08-21-2003, 02:14 PM

Curse? No way. It's just the way things shake out at times.

gyb13 · 08-21-2003, 02:23 PM

plus, a post-season mvp is awarded to a player who got hot for a couple of games while playing for a strong team... sometimes this is a superstar, sometimes it's pat borders

Ytown Tribe fan · 08-21-2003, 04:23 PM

You can knock him all you want, but Borders is still wearing a major league uniform. A lot of those guys on that list are not, and only a handful of forty-something hitters are.

pwdennis · 08-21-2003, 10:36 PM

I must confess to not seeing any sort of pattern emerge from the list of WS MVPs. Bob "Hurricane" Hazel anyone ?

08-21-2003, 11:09 AM	#1
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08-21-2003, 11:54 AM	#2
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	looking just at the season after 2002 Glaus (2003 - season ended by injury) 2001 Schilling/Johnson 2000 Jeter 1999 Rivera (2000 - his worst season, at 2.85 era) 1998 Brosius (1999 - drops from .300 to .247) 1997 Livan (1998 - mediocre first full season) 1996 Wetteland 1995 Glavine 1993 Molitor 1992 Borders (1993 - realized he was still pat borders) 1991 Morris (1992 - wins 21 gms despite being a lg avg pitcher) 1990 Rijo 1989 Stewart 1988 Hershiser 1987 Viola 1986 Knight (1987 - becomes mediocre in BAL) 1985 Saberhagen (1986 - has an off yr, but still lg avg) 1984 Trammell (1985 - has an off year, but still lg avg) 1983 Dempsey (1984 - has power surge, still crappy hitter) so maybe half of those guys had setbacks following their mvp's.... __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

08-21-2003, 02:14 PM	#3
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Curse? No way. It's just the way things shake out at times. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

08-21-2003, 02:23 PM	#4
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	plus, a post-season mvp is awarded to a player who got hot for a couple of games while playing for a strong team... sometimes this is a superstar, sometimes it's pat borders __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

08-21-2003, 10:36 PM	#6
pwdennis NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 2,503	I must confess to not seeing any sort of pattern emerge from the list of WS MVPs. Bob "Hurricane" Hazel anyone ? __________________ "I would submit that if the world survives for a million years, perhaps its finest hour may be that in the last half of the 20th century, when the power to blow up the world rested in the hands of a few men in two very unsophisticated and suspicious countries, we didn't do it, and one American, Richard Nixon, moved the cold war away from permanent confrontation toward victory. How could any wrong that he did compare with that?" - John Sears

08-21-2003, 04:23 PM	#5
Ytown Tribe fan Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scrappers territory Posts: 2,515	You can knock him all you want, but Borders is still wearing a major league uniform. A lot of those guys on that list are not, and only a handful of forty-something hitters are.

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