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Old 11-08-2001, 01:33 PM   #16
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How many of those 12,000 stop going once ticket prices double?

Buzz - you're running in place. How many more buy tickets for a better product? Let's agree to disagree.
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Old 11-08-2001, 01:45 PM   #17
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I am not running in place. Just moving the Expos to Buffalo does not make them a better product. It makes them more expensive than the AAA entertainment they have and that has the potential to reduce attendance. I don't believe you can compare the price of a AAA game to the price for the major league game and expect attendance would remain unchanged.
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Buffalo, Nashville and Charlotte aren't the only markets out there - there's certainly Portland, and you could probably even make a case for an MLB team in New Orleans.
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Buffalo, Nashville and Charlotte aren't the only markets out there - there's certainly Portland, and you could probably even make a case for an MLB team in New Orleans.
You posted this twice because you are so passionate about Portland and the Big Easy?
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You posted this twice because you are so passionate about Portland and the Big Easy?

D'oh - my computer froze up at the moment of posting, so I hit the button twice.

It has been taken care of.
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The uptick in ticket prices from AAA to the majors isn't steep enough to erode those attendance numbers that much. You can get into MLB games in most cities for under $15. Now they may not fill up overpriced "club seats" but you could still get attendance numbers. In fact, I suspect that those numbers would go up, not down.

I am beginning to think that Buzz has been religiously digesting all of the stuff that MLB management has been spewing over the last decade. You love interleague play and feel it has been managed well too, right?
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I am beginning to think that Buzz has been religiously digesting all of the stuff that MLB management has been spewing over the last decade.

It's a great cereal - Frosted Blockage Buds - - each and every bowl guaranteed to constipate your thought process. They start off every Owners' Meeting with at least one bowl apiece.
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I am beginning to think that Buzz has been religiously digesting all of the stuff that MLB management has been spewing over the last decade. You love interleague play and feel it has been managed well too, right?
I just love the fact that by disagreeing I am by definintion wrong. Love that. Since I am already the odd man out, I'll say it again. Baseball would be better off contracting 4 teams, not 2 and I believe that deeply.

As for interleague play, the only good part from my perspective is that the Mets playing the Yankees is great. I could care less that the Mets play Toronto, Boston, Baltimore, etc. Those games are ok in that I get to see teams I wouldn't otherwise see, but I could take it or leave it. But since interleague play is what makes the Mets/Yankees possible, then yes, I do like it.
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I just love the fact that by disagreeing I am by definintion wrong.

I would subsitute "in the minority" for "wrong." There's a big difference.
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I am not saying that you are "wrong" about anything. However, your last answer (and all of your feelings about baseball economics) are based on what is good for the New York teams. Doing nothing about your economic structure but contracting franchises has only one impact; to provide cash in the short run. I guess if "good for the games" means "good for any team who can spend with the Yankees, Mets and Rangers" your solution may not go far enough.

In the big picture, all this "solution" is doing is moving the mantel of "troubled franchise" to a different set of teams. If four teams were gone, all that hapens is that salaries escalate and the Reds, Pirates, Tigers, Royals and A's are on the bubble.

What aspect of history and economics is not clear on this?
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However, your last answer (and all of your feelings about baseball economics) are based on what is good for the New York teams. Doing nothing about your economic structure but contracting franchises has only one impact;
My perspective on contraction has absolutely nothing to do with the NY teams. Far from that. And I am all for changing the economic strucure, too.
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