NL Babe Ruth Award

nyy26wc · 10-23-2002, 12:07 AM

If you don't already know who the NL Babe Ruth Award winner is, please let me know and I will remove you from the list. If means you haven't any attention to baseball and it's not fair to clutter up your in box with reports on a topic you have no interest in. [That paragraph refers to my email list, but I'm going to keep it in the NDF version.]

Bonds set the major league records with a 1.381 OPS, .582 OBA, .942 OWP, .938 SEC, 2.062 TA, 198 walks and 68 intentional walks, while his 161 RCAA rank 3rd all time, 8 shy of his 2001 record. Bonds led the NL in SLG (.370), OBA, OPS, RC (206), RCAA, OWP, RC/G (21.23), ISO (.429), BPA (.869) IBB and AVG (.370) and finished 2nd in HR (46).

This is Bonds's 9th Babe Ruth Award, which puts him one behind Rogers Hornsby's NL record and ranks him 4th behind Ruth (11), Mantle (10) and Hornsby.

MULTIPLE BABE RUTH AWARDS

11--Babe Ruth
10--Rogers Hornsby, Mickey Mantle
9--Barry Bonds
8--Ty Cobb, Stan Musial, Honus Wagner, Ted Williams
6--Willie Mays
4--Jimmie Foxx, Mel Ott, Frank Thomas
3--Hank Aaron, Wade Boggs, Lou Gehrig, Reggie Jackson, Nap Lajoie, Willie McCovey, Mark McGwire, Joe Morgan, Frank Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Tris Speaker, Carl Yastrzemski
2--Dick Allen, George Brett, Gavy Cravath, Ralph Kiner, Sherry Magee, Johnny Mize, Tim Raines, Hack Wilson

NL BABE RUTH AWARD WINNERS

1900--Honus Wagner
1901--Jesse Burkett
1902--Honus Wagner
1903--Frank Chance
1904--Honus Wagner
1905--Cy Seymour
1906--Honus Wagner
1907--Honus Wagner
1908--Honus Wagner
1909--Honus Wagner
1910--Sherry Magee
1911--Honus Wagner
1912--Heinie Zimmerman
1913--Gavy Cravath
1914--Sherry Magee
1915--Gavy Cravath
1916--Zack Wheat
1917--Rogers Hornsby
1918--Heine Groh
1919--George Burns
1920--Rogers Hornsby
1921--Rogers Hornsby
1922--Rogers Hornsby
1923--Rogers Hornsby
1924--Rogers Hornsby
1925--Rogers Hornsby
1926--Hack Wilson
1927--Rogers Hornsby
1928--Rogers Hornsby
1929--Rogers Hornsby
1930--Hack Wilson
1931--Bill Terry
1932--Mel Ott
1933--Chuck Klein
1934--Mel Ott
1935--Arky Vaughan
1936--Mel Ott
1937--Joe Medwick
1938--Mel Ott
1939--Johnny Mize
1940--Johnny Mize
1941--Pete Reiser
1942--Enos Slaughter
1943--Stan Musial
1944--Stan Musial
1945--Tommy Holmes
1946--Stan Musial
1947--Ralph Kiner
1948--Stan Musial
1949--Ralph Kiner
1950--Stan Musial
1951--Stan Musial
1952--Stan Musial
1953--Stan Musial
1954--Willie Mays
1955--Willie Mays
1956--Duke Snider
1957--Willie Mays
1958--Willie Mays
1959--Hank Aaron
1960--Eddie Mathews
1961--Frank Robinson
1962--Frank Robinson
1963--Hank Aaron
1964--Willie Mays
1965--Willie Mays
1966--Dick Allen
1967--Roberto Clemente
1968--Willie McCovey
1969--Willie McCovey
1970--Willie McCovey
1971--Hank Aaron
1972--Billy Williams
1973--Willie Stargell
1974--Joe Morgan
1975--Joe Morgan
1976--Joe Morgan
1977--George Foster
1978--Dave Parker
1979--Dave Winfield
1980--Mike Schmidt
1981--Mike Schmidt
1982--Mike Schmidt
1983--Dale Murphy
1984--Tim Raines
1985--Pedro Guerrero
1986--Tim Raines
1987--Tony Gwynn
1988--Darryl Strawberry
1989--Kevin Mitchell
1990--Barry Bonds
1991--Barry Bonds
1992--Barry Bonds
1993--Barry Bonds
1994--Jeff Bagwell
1995--Barry Bonds
1996--Barry Bonds
1997--Larry Walker
1998--Mark McGwire
1999--Mark McGwire
2000--Barry Bonds
2001--Barry Bonds
2002--Barry Bonds

moose · 10-23-2002, 12:58 AM

1. Interesting that Raines won 2 and Rickey won none.

2. Lee, is the RCAA leader automatically the Babe Ruth Award winner, or is there discretion if the leaders are within <x> RCAA of each other?

Max Power · 10-23-2002, 08:02 AM

Is Bonds' 2002 season the best ever by a batter?

JamesI · 10-23-2002, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Max Power
Is Bonds' 2002 season the best ever by a batter?

I think this year was more impressive than last year for Bonds. It probably is the best season ever.

nyy26wc · 10-23-2002, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moose
1. Interesting that Raines won 2 and Rickey won none.

Rickey won 1, in 1990. He just didn't show up on the NL list.

Quote:

2. Lee, is the RCAA leader automatically the Babe Ruth Award winner, or is there discretion if the leaders are within <x> RCAA of each other?

The RCAA leader is usually the Babe Ruth Award winner, but that's not a fixed rule. I have no rule on how close someone has to be in order to beat the RCAA leader.

10-23-2002, 10:39 AM

With two more, can we call it the Barry Bonds award?

Bonds could be one of the most underrated players (by the general public) in the history of the game.

We may be near the point where not only do conventional stats fail to do justice to his greatness, but secondary stats may be failing as well.

Simply unbelieveable.

KCBOOMER · 10-23-2002, 10:40 AM

Truly a monster season.

moose · 10-23-2002, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nyy26wc
Rickey won 1, in 1990. He just didn't show up on the NL list.

(flattening forehead a little bit)
good point.

gyb13 · 10-23-2002, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Max Power
Is Bonds' 2002 season the best ever by a batter?

probably, though unfortunately people will usually remember his 73 HR performance of last year.....unless maybe if he wins the WS

nyy26wc · 10-23-2002, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by gyb13
probably, though unfortunately people will usually remember his 73 HR performance of last year.....unless maybe if he wins the WS

I don't think it would be unfortunate for Bonds's 2001 season to be ranked ahead of 2002.

In 2001, you have the RCAA and SLG records, the NL runs created record, 22 more runs created and 8 more RCAA.

moose · 10-23-2002, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nyy26wc
I don't think it would be unfortunate for Bonds's 2001 season to be ranked ahead of 2002.

In 2001, you have the RCAA and SLG records, the NL runs created record, 22 more runs created and 8 more RCAA.

but alas, a slightly less massive head.

nyy26wc · 10-23-2002, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by moose
but alas, a slightly less massive head.

And where is the evidence that his head is bigger in 2002 than 2001?

moose · 10-23-2002, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nyy26wc
And where is the evidence that his head is bigger in 2002 than 2001?

i was just being flippant for a change. i'll leave the conspiracy theories to oliver stone

BUT, if I start begging now, can we see Head Mass Above League Average, in grams, in the next SBE?

gyb13 · 10-24-2002, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nyy26wc
I don't think it would be unfortunate for Bonds's 2001 season to be ranked ahead of 2002.

but you don't think people will remember 73 and neglect all else?

nyy26wc · 10-25-2002, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gyb13
but you don't think people will remember 73 and neglect all else?

That will probably happen, but if 2002 is the one that is remembered, then the masses are eventually going to reduce his season to just a single swing--that long World Series HR?

And sooner or later, if 755 falls, the masses are going to forget everything else he accomplished and will just remember that.

But, I say who cares about the oversimplication of the masses.

10-23-2002, 12:07 AM	#1
nyy26wc NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 14,584	NL Babe Ruth Award If you don't already know who the NL Babe Ruth Award winner is, please let me know and I will remove you from the list. If means you haven't any attention to baseball and it's not fair to clutter up your in box with reports on a topic you have no interest in. [That paragraph refers to my email list, but I'm going to keep it in the NDF version.] Bonds set the major league records with a 1.381 OPS, .582 OBA, .942 OWP, .938 SEC, 2.062 TA, 198 walks and 68 intentional walks, while his 161 RCAA rank 3rd all time, 8 shy of his 2001 record. Bonds led the NL in SLG (.370), OBA, OPS, RC (206), RCAA, OWP, RC/G (21.23), ISO (.429), BPA (.869) IBB and AVG (.370) and finished 2nd in HR (46). This is Bonds's 9th Babe Ruth Award, which puts him one behind Rogers Hornsby's NL record and ranks him 4th behind Ruth (11), Mantle (10) and Hornsby. MULTIPLE BABE RUTH AWARDS 11--Babe Ruth 10--Rogers Hornsby, Mickey Mantle 9--Barry Bonds 8--Ty Cobb, Stan Musial, Honus Wagner, Ted Williams 6--Willie Mays 4--Jimmie Foxx, Mel Ott, Frank Thomas 3--Hank Aaron, Wade Boggs, Lou Gehrig, Reggie Jackson, Nap Lajoie, Willie McCovey, Mark McGwire, Joe Morgan, Frank Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Tris Speaker, Carl Yastrzemski 2--Dick Allen, George Brett, Gavy Cravath, Ralph Kiner, Sherry Magee, Johnny Mize, Tim Raines, Hack Wilson NL BABE RUTH AWARD WINNERS 1900--Honus Wagner 1901--Jesse Burkett 1902--Honus Wagner 1903--Frank Chance 1904--Honus Wagner 1905--Cy Seymour 1906--Honus Wagner 1907--Honus Wagner 1908--Honus Wagner 1909--Honus Wagner 1910--Sherry Magee 1911--Honus Wagner 1912--Heinie Zimmerman 1913--Gavy Cravath 1914--Sherry Magee 1915--Gavy Cravath 1916--Zack Wheat 1917--Rogers Hornsby 1918--Heine Groh 1919--George Burns 1920--Rogers Hornsby 1921--Rogers Hornsby 1922--Rogers Hornsby 1923--Rogers Hornsby 1924--Rogers Hornsby 1925--Rogers Hornsby 1926--Hack Wilson 1927--Rogers Hornsby 1928--Rogers Hornsby 1929--Rogers Hornsby 1930--Hack Wilson 1931--Bill Terry 1932--Mel Ott 1933--Chuck Klein 1934--Mel Ott 1935--Arky Vaughan 1936--Mel Ott 1937--Joe Medwick 1938--Mel Ott 1939--Johnny Mize 1940--Johnny Mize 1941--Pete Reiser 1942--Enos Slaughter 1943--Stan Musial 1944--Stan Musial 1945--Tommy Holmes 1946--Stan Musial 1947--Ralph Kiner 1948--Stan Musial 1949--Ralph Kiner 1950--Stan Musial 1951--Stan Musial 1952--Stan Musial 1953--Stan Musial 1954--Willie Mays 1955--Willie Mays 1956--Duke Snider 1957--Willie Mays 1958--Willie Mays 1959--Hank Aaron 1960--Eddie Mathews 1961--Frank Robinson 1962--Frank Robinson 1963--Hank Aaron 1964--Willie Mays 1965--Willie Mays 1966--Dick Allen 1967--Roberto Clemente 1968--Willie McCovey 1969--Willie McCovey 1970--Willie McCovey 1971--Hank Aaron 1972--Billy Williams 1973--Willie Stargell 1974--Joe Morgan 1975--Joe Morgan 1976--Joe Morgan 1977--George Foster 1978--Dave Parker 1979--Dave Winfield 1980--Mike Schmidt 1981--Mike Schmidt 1982--Mike Schmidt 1983--Dale Murphy 1984--Tim Raines 1985--Pedro Guerrero 1986--Tim Raines 1987--Tony Gwynn 1988--Darryl Strawberry 1989--Kevin Mitchell 1990--Barry Bonds 1991--Barry Bonds 1992--Barry Bonds 1993--Barry Bonds 1994--Jeff Bagwell 1995--Barry Bonds 1996--Barry Bonds 1997--Larry Walker 1998--Mark McGwire 1999--Mark McGwire 2000--Barry Bonds 2001--Barry Bonds 2002--Barry Bonds __________________ Lee Creator, Complete Baseball Encyclopedia. It's powerful, yet extremely easy to use. Features extensive sorting and stat display options. The CBE has many features that are not available in online and printed sources. Has 2006 stats and daily update service for 2007.

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moose Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Socs Posts: 3,400	1. Interesting that Raines won 2 and Rickey won none. 2. Lee, is the RCAA leader automatically the Babe Ruth Award winner, or is there discretion if the leaders are within <x> RCAA of each other?

10-23-2002, 10:39 AM	#6
CpUltravox Posts: n/a	With two more, can we call it the Barry Bonds award? Bonds could be one of the most underrated players (by the general public) in the history of the game. We may be near the point where not only do conventional stats fail to do justice to his greatness, but secondary stats may be failing as well. Simply unbelieveable.

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