Tigers tie AL L record; Cubs set SO record

nyy26wc · 09-22-2003, 01:32 PM

1) Yesterday's scores--

AL
Redsox 2, Indians 0
Yankees 6, Devil Rays 0
BlueJays 7, Orioles 4
Royals 10, Whitesox 4
Twins 6, Tigers 4
A's 12, Mariners 0
Angels 11, Rangers 6

NL
Braves 8, Marlins 0
Expos 4, Mets 2
Cubs 4, Pirates 1
Reds 4, Phillies 3
Brewers 6, Diamondbacks 4
Cardinals 6, Astros 4
Rockies 5, Padres 3
Dodgers 7, Giants 5

2) Standings--

Code:

AL EAST         WON  LOST  PCT  GB      HOME   ROAD   EAST  CENT  WEST STREAK
y--Yankees       97   58  .626   -     47-31  50-27  44-28 22-07 18-18 WON  3
Redsox           91   64  .587   6     50-27  41-37  37-32 24-12 19-13 WON  1
e--BlueJays      81   74  .523  16     36-38  45-36  34-38 20-13 17-15 WON  1
e--Orioles       69   85  .448  27 1/2 40-40  29-45  29-39 14-18 21-15 LOST 1
e--Devil Rays    60   95  .387  37     34-44  26-51  31-38 12-20 14-22 LOST 4

AL CENTRAL      WON  LOST  PCT  GB      HOME   ROAD   EAST  CENT  WEST STREAK
Twins            87   69  .558   -     46-33  41-36  17-15 40-30 20-16 WON  9
Royals           81   74  .523   5 1/2 38-35  43-39  12-20 44-25 16-20 WON  2
Whitesox         81   74  .523   5 1/2 49-29  32-45  19-14 39-33 13-19 LOST 2
e-Indians        67   90  .427  20 1/2 38-43  29-47  13-16 35-39 13-23 LOST 1
e--Tigers        38  117  .245  48 1/2 20-57  18-60  09-27 19-50 06-26 LOST 9

AL WEST         WON  LOST  PCT  GB      HOME   ROAD   EAST  CENT  WEST STREAK
A's              93   63  .596   -     54-24  39-39  28-13 25-20 31-21 WON  1
Mariners         89   67  .571   4     47-31  42-36  18-23 32-13 29-23 LOST 1
e--Angels        73   83  .468  20     41-35  32-48  15-30 26-15 21-31 WON  1
e--Rangers       70   86  .449  23     43-38  27-48  22-23 21-20 23-29 LOST 1

NL EAST         WON  LOST  PCT  GB      HOME   ROAD   EAST  CENT  WEST STREAK
x--Braves        97   59  .622   -     53-25  44-34  37-33 27-12 23-09 WON  1
d--Marlins       85   70  .548  11 1/2 48-27  37-43  42-27 19-20 15-17 LOST 1
d--Phillies      85   71  .545  12     48-30  37-41  38-32 21-18 18-14 LOST 2
e--Expos         81   76  .516  16 1/2 52-29  29-47  35-39 18-15 19-13 WON  4
e--Mets          63   92  .406  33 1/2 32-45  31-47  26-47 15-21 17-14 LOST 8

NL CENTRAL      WON  LOST  PCT  GB      HOME   ROAD   EAST  CENT  WEST STREAK
Astros           84   71  .542   -     45-29  39-42  13-17 47-33 13-14 LOST 2
Cubs             84   72  .538     1/2 42-36  42-36  15-15 43-35 17-13 WON  1
Cardinals        81   76  .516   4     48-33  33-43  17-13 44-38 10-17 WON  2
e--Pirates       73   83  .468  11 1/2 39-42  34-41  14-16 38-43 16-17 LOST 1
e--Reds          67   89  .429  17 1/2 33-42  34-47  13-17 33-48 14-19 WON  2
e--Brewers       66   90  .423  18 1/2 31-48  35-42  14-22 35-43 12-18 WON  1

NL WEST         WON  LOST  PCT  GB      HOME   ROAD   EAST  CENT  WEST STREAK
x--Giants        95   59  .617   -     54-23  41-36  14-17 21-12 50-22 LOST 1
d--Dodgers       82   72  .532  13     46-35  36-37  16-16 23-13 32-36 WON  1
d--Diamondbacks  81   75  .519  15     44-34  37-41  16-16 22-14 32-41 LOST 1
e--Rockies       71   85  .455  25     48-30  23-55  11-21 19-20 32-38 WON  1
e--Padres        61   94  .394  34 1/2 32-42  29-52  10-22 13-23 30-39 LOST 1

x--clinched division title
y--clinched playoff berth
d--mathematically eliminated from winning the division title
e--mathematically eliminated from winning the division title and from the postseason

3) Wild card standings--

Code:

AL              WON  LOST  PCT  GB
Redsox           91   64  .587   -    
Mariners         89   67  .571   2 1/2

NL              WON  LOST  PCT  GB
Marlins          85   70  .548   -    
Phillies         85   71  .545     1/2
Cubs             84   72  .538   1 1/2
Dodgers          82   72  .532   2 1/2
Diamondbacks     81   75  .519   4 1/2

4) The Yankees will clinch the division title if they beat the Whitesox or the Redsox lose to the Orioles.

5) The Dodgers clinched a winning season for the 4th consecutive year.

6) Magic numbers--

AL East--Yankees, 1
AL Central--Twins, 2
AL West--A's, 3
AL wild card--Redsox, 5

NL East--Braves, clinched
NL Central--Astros, 7
NL West--Giants, clinched
NL wild card--Marlins, 7

7) The race for the postseason seeds--

AL--The Yankees have a 4 1/2 game lead over the A's for the #1 seed. The A's have a 6 game lead over the Twins for the #2 seed.

The Central champions will be assured of the #3 seed if the A's beat the Rangers.

NL--The Braves have a 1 game lead over the Giants for the #1 seed. The Central champions will be the #3 seed.

8) Tigers watch--

To lose 118 games (to set an AL record): 6-1
To lose 121 games (to set a modern major league record): 3-4

Current pace: 122 losses

The Tigers tied the AL record for losses in a season, with 117, tying the mark set by the 1915 Athletics.

9) Today's schedule--

AL
Orioles (Jason Johnson) at Redsox (Jeff Suppan), 7:05
Devil Rays (Rob Bell) at BlueJays (Roy Halladay), 7:05
Tigers (Gary Knotts) at Royals (Paul Abbot), 8:05
Yankees (David Wells) at Whitesox (Bartolo Colon), 8:05
Mariners (Jamie Moyer) at Angels (Jarrod Washburn), 10:05
Rangers (Tony Mounce) at A's (Barry Zito), 10:05

NL
Marlins (Mark Redman) at Braves (Mike Hampton), 7:35
Giants (Jerome Williams) at Astros (Ron Villone), 8:05
Dodgers (Odalis Perez) at Padres (Mike Bynum), 10:05

10) Yesterday's HRs--

Alex Rodriguez--#47
Jim Thome--#44
Richie Sexson--#42
Carlos Delgado--#36
Alfonso Soriano--#34
Jeromy Burnitz--#30
Chipper Jones--#27
Aramis Ramirez--#25 & #26
Mark Teixeira--#25
Lance Berkman--#24
Adrian Beltre--#22
Rondell White--#21
Brian Giles--#19
Shawn Green--#18
Shea Hillenbrand--#18
Wil Cordero--#16
Michael Young--#14
Larry Walker--#14
Keith Ginter--#14
Robin Ventura--#14
Jeff DaVanon--#12
Mark Ellis--#9
Sean Burroughs--#7
Aaron Rowand--#6
Bill Hall--#5
Rene Reyes--#2
So Taguchi--#2
Todd Linden--#1

11) HR leaders--

AL
1) Alex Rodriguez--47*
2) Frank Thomas--41
3) Jason Giambi--39
T4) Rafael Palmeiro--36
T4) Carlos Delgado--36*
6) Manny Ramirez--35
7) Alfonso Soriano--34*
T8) Bret Boone--33
T8) Vernon Wells--33
10) Aubrey Huff--31

NL
T1) Barry Bonds--44
T1) Jim Thome--44*
3) Albert Pujols--43
T4) Javier Lopez--42
T4) Richie Sexson--42*
T6) Jeff Bagwell--37
T6) Gary Sheffield--37
T6) Jim Edmonds--37
T9) Sammy Sosa--36
T9) Andruw Jones--36

*--hit 1 yesterday

12) Jim Thome passed Gary Sheffield and Norm cash and tied Matt Williams for 50th place on the all time HR list, with 378.

13) Larry Walker passed George Foster into 68th place on the all time HR list, with 349.

14) Alex Rodriguez tied Manny Ramirez for 70th place on the all time HR list, with 345.

15) Carlos Delgado passed Rickey Henderson and Edgar Martinez and tied Tino Martinez for 98th place on the all time HR list, with 298.

16) Dodgers LF Jeromy Burnitz reached 30 HR for the 5th time.

After 12 RCAA/.851 OPS and -16 RCAA/.677 OPS seasons, Burnitz is hitting .502 SLG, .306 OBA, .808 OPS, 3 RCAA in 118 games (first 65 with the Mets). He has a .835 career OPS, compared to his league average of .776, and 89 RCAA in 1265 games.

nyy26wc · 09-22-2003, 01:32 PM

1) The Cubs set the major league record for most pitching SO.

The new top 10--

Code:

STRIKEOUTS                    YEAR     SO     
1    Cubs                     2003     1352   
2    Cubs                     2001     1344   
3    Cubs                     2002     1333   
4    Diamondbacks             2002     1303   
5    Diamondbacks             2001     1297   
6    Yankees                  2001     1266   
7    Redsox                   2001     1259   
8    Braves                   1996     1245   
9    Diamondbacks             2003     1241   
T10  Braves                   1998     1232   
T10  Dodgers                  1997     1232

They are also on top against the league averages--

Code:

STRIKEOUTS                    YEAR     DIFF     TEAM   LEAGUE   
1    Cubs                     2003      316     1352     1036   
2    Mets                     1990      292     1217      925   
3    Dodgers                  1961      276     1105      829   
4    Mets                     1971      273     1157      884   
5    A's                      1904      270      887      617   
6    Yankees                  1932      267      780      513   
7    Dodgers                  1960      264     1122      858   
8    Astros                   1969      261     1221      960   
9    A's                      1905      251      895      644   
10   Cubs                     2002      249     1333     1084

2) The Dodgers had back to back to back HR in the 4th, against the Giants, with Robin Ventura, Jeromy Burnitz and Adrian Beltre hitting them.

3) Brewers SS Royce Clayton, who will be a free agent at the end of the season, says the Diamondbacks are at the top of his list.

Clayton could lead the league in worst RCAA for the 2nd time in the past 4 years. He currently leads Endy Chavez, -38 to -37.

4) Diamondbacks P Curt Schilling pitched in his 450th career game.

Schilling set the major league record for best SO/BB rate, vs. the league average, for pitchers with 450+ games--

Code:

STRIKEOUTS/WALKS                DIFF   PLAYER   LEAGUE      G     
1    Curt Schilling             2.29     4.22     1.93      450   
2    Doug Jones                 1.91     3.68     1.77      846   
3    Trevor Hoffman             1.76     3.70     1.94      638   
4    Tom Henke                  1.70     3.38     1.68      642   
5    Dennis Eckersley           1.68     3.25     1.57     1071   
6    Billy Wagner               1.68     3.62     1.95      461   
7    Christy Mathewson          1.68     2.96     1.29      635   
8    Rod Beck                   1.56     3.48     1.92      674   
9    Ferguson Jenkins           1.53     3.20     1.67      664   
10   Dick Hall                  1.53     3.14     1.61      495

5) Rockies P Jason Jennings's virus will sideline him for the rest of the season.

6) A's P Rich Harden missed yesterday's start, due to minor back spasms.

Harden, a highly rated rookie, has a 4.64 ERA/-3 RSAA in his first 12 career starts.

7) Yankees 1B Jason Giambi and SS Derek Jeter were given routine days off.

After 103 RCAA/1.137 OPS and 75 RCAA/1.034 OPS seasons, Giambi is hitting .520 SLG, .441 OBA, .931 OPS, 48 RCAA in 150 games. He has a .964 career OPS, compared to his league average of .775, and 442 RCAA in 1258 games.

After 32 RCAA/.858 OPS and 23 RCAA/.794 OPS seasons, Jeter is hitting .455 SLG, .395 OBA, .850 OPS, 24 RCAA in 113 games. He has a .852 career OPS, compared to his league average of .775, and 237 RCAA in 1206 games.

8) Yankees P Roger Clemens is concerned about a tight right hamstring.

After 3.51 ERA/24 RSAA and 4.35 ERA/0 RSAA seasons, Clemens has a 3.94 ERA/10 RSAA in 32 starts. The all time great has a 3.19 career ERA, compared to his league average of 4.39, and 613 RSAA in 606 games.

9) There is a lot of speculation that Orioles MGR Mike Hargrove is starting his last week on the job, while Eddie Murray has emerged as a potential replacement.

10) With the Whitesox on the brink of elimination, this could easily be MGR Jerry Manuel's final week.

11) According to SABR's David Vincent, Randy Johnson's HR on Friday, at the age of 40 years, 9 days, made him the oldest player to hit his 1st career HR. The old record was 38 years, 363 days, by Bill McGhee.

12) Braves 3B Vinny Castilla has a bruised middle finger on his right hand and is day to day.

After -17 RCAA/.775 OPS and -38 RCAA/.616 OPS seasons, Castilla has a .461 SLG, .311 OBA, .772 OPS, -8 RCAA in 145 games. He has a .808 career OPS, compared to his league average of .770, and -149 RCAA in 1475 games.

gyb13 · 09-22-2003, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyy26wc

1) The Cubs set the major league record for most pitching SO.

The new top 10--

Code:

STRIKEOUTS                    YEAR     SO     
1    Cubs                     2003     1352   
2    Cubs                     2001     1344   
3    Cubs                     2002     1333   
4    Diamondbacks             2002     1303   
5    Diamondbacks             2001     1297   
6    Yankees                  2001     1266   
7    Redsox                   2001     1259   
8    Braves                   1996     1245   
9    Diamondbacks             2003     1241   
T10  Braves                   1998     1232   
T10  Dodgers                  1997     1232

They are also on top against the league averages--

Code:

STRIKEOUTS                    YEAR     DIFF     TEAM   LEAGUE   
1    Cubs                     2003      316     1352     1036   
2    Mets                     1990      292     1217      925   
3    Dodgers                  1961      276     1105      829   
4    Mets                     1971      273     1157      884   
5    A's                      1904      270      887      617   
6    Yankees                  1932      267      780      513   
7    Dodgers                  1960      264     1122      858   
8    Astros                   1969      261     1221      960   
9    A's                      1905      251      895      644   
10   Cubs                     2002      249     1333     1084

is this the top three-year run by a pitching staff, relative to their league?

nyy26wc · 09-22-2003, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyb13

is this the top three-year run by a pitching staff, relative to their league?

No. It's single season.

gyb13 · 09-22-2003, 05:12 PM

no, i know the graph you showed is single-season. i'm wondering, however, whether this is the greatest 3-yr stretch ever.

nyy26wc · 09-23-2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyb13

no, i know the graph you showed is single-season. i'm wondering, however, whether this is the greatest 3-yr stretch ever.

Yes, in terms of both absolute figures and vs. the league averages.

gyb13 · 09-23-2003, 10:03 PM

thx for checking! pretty impressive, considering their pitching coach musical chairs...then again, if you have the horses....

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09-22-2003, 01:32 PM	#1
nyy26wc NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 14,584	Tigers tie AL L record; Cubs set SO record 1) Yesterday's scores-- AL Redsox 2, Indians 0 Yankees 6, Devil Rays 0 BlueJays 7, Orioles 4 Royals 10, Whitesox 4 Twins 6, Tigers 4 A's 12, Mariners 0 Angels 11, Rangers 6 NL Braves 8, Marlins 0 Expos 4, Mets 2 Cubs 4, Pirates 1 Reds 4, Phillies 3 Brewers 6, Diamondbacks 4 Cardinals 6, Astros 4 Rockies 5, Padres 3 Dodgers 7, Giants 5 2) Standings-- Code: AL EAST WON LOST PCT GB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST STREAK y--Yankees 97 58 .626 - 47-31 50-27 44-28 22-07 18-18 WON 3 Redsox 91 64 .587 6 50-27 41-37 37-32 24-12 19-13 WON 1 e--BlueJays 81 74 .523 16 36-38 45-36 34-38 20-13 17-15 WON 1 e--Orioles 69 85 .448 27 1/2 40-40 29-45 29-39 14-18 21-15 LOST 1 e--Devil Rays 60 95 .387 37 34-44 26-51 31-38 12-20 14-22 LOST 4 AL CENTRAL WON LOST PCT GB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST STREAK Twins 87 69 .558 - 46-33 41-36 17-15 40-30 20-16 WON 9 Royals 81 74 .523 5 1/2 38-35 43-39 12-20 44-25 16-20 WON 2 Whitesox 81 74 .523 5 1/2 49-29 32-45 19-14 39-33 13-19 LOST 2 e-Indians 67 90 .427 20 1/2 38-43 29-47 13-16 35-39 13-23 LOST 1 e--Tigers 38 117 .245 48 1/2 20-57 18-60 09-27 19-50 06-26 LOST 9 AL WEST WON LOST PCT GB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST STREAK A's 93 63 .596 - 54-24 39-39 28-13 25-20 31-21 WON 1 Mariners 89 67 .571 4 47-31 42-36 18-23 32-13 29-23 LOST 1 e--Angels 73 83 .468 20 41-35 32-48 15-30 26-15 21-31 WON 1 e--Rangers 70 86 .449 23 43-38 27-48 22-23 21-20 23-29 LOST 1 NL EAST WON LOST PCT GB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST STREAK x--Braves 97 59 .622 - 53-25 44-34 37-33 27-12 23-09 WON 1 d--Marlins 85 70 .548 11 1/2 48-27 37-43 42-27 19-20 15-17 LOST 1 d--Phillies 85 71 .545 12 48-30 37-41 38-32 21-18 18-14 LOST 2 e--Expos 81 76 .516 16 1/2 52-29 29-47 35-39 18-15 19-13 WON 4 e--Mets 63 92 .406 33 1/2 32-45 31-47 26-47 15-21 17-14 LOST 8 NL CENTRAL WON LOST PCT GB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST STREAK Astros 84 71 .542 - 45-29 39-42 13-17 47-33 13-14 LOST 2 Cubs 84 72 .538 1/2 42-36 42-36 15-15 43-35 17-13 WON 1 Cardinals 81 76 .516 4 48-33 33-43 17-13 44-38 10-17 WON 2 e--Pirates 73 83 .468 11 1/2 39-42 34-41 14-16 38-43 16-17 LOST 1 e--Reds 67 89 .429 17 1/2 33-42 34-47 13-17 33-48 14-19 WON 2 e--Brewers 66 90 .423 18 1/2 31-48 35-42 14-22 35-43 12-18 WON 1 NL WEST WON LOST PCT GB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST STREAK x--Giants 95 59 .617 - 54-23 41-36 14-17 21-12 50-22 LOST 1 d--Dodgers 82 72 .532 13 46-35 36-37 16-16 23-13 32-36 WON 1 d--Diamondbacks 81 75 .519 15 44-34 37-41 16-16 22-14 32-41 LOST 1 e--Rockies 71 85 .455 25 48-30 23-55 11-21 19-20 32-38 WON 1 e--Padres 61 94 .394 34 1/2 32-42 29-52 10-22 13-23 30-39 LOST 1 x--clinched division title y--clinched playoff berth d--mathematically eliminated from winning the division title e--mathematically eliminated from winning the division title and from the postseason 3) Wild card standings-- Code: AL WON LOST PCT GB Redsox 91 64 .587 - Mariners 89 67 .571 2 1/2 NL WON LOST PCT GB Marlins 85 70 .548 - Phillies 85 71 .545 1/2 Cubs 84 72 .538 1 1/2 Dodgers 82 72 .532 2 1/2 Diamondbacks 81 75 .519 4 1/2 4) The Yankees will clinch the division title if they beat the Whitesox or the Redsox lose to the Orioles. 5) The Dodgers clinched a winning season for the 4th consecutive year. 6) Magic numbers-- AL East--Yankees, 1 AL Central--Twins, 2 AL West--A's, 3 AL wild card--Redsox, 5 NL East--Braves, clinched NL Central--Astros, 7 NL West--Giants, clinched NL wild card--Marlins, 7 7) The race for the postseason seeds-- AL--The Yankees have a 4 1/2 game lead over the A's for the #1 seed. The A's have a 6 game lead over the Twins for the #2 seed. The Central champions will be assured of the #3 seed if the A's beat the Rangers. NL--The Braves have a 1 game lead over the Giants for the #1 seed. The Central champions will be the #3 seed. 8) Tigers watch-- To lose 118 games (to set an AL record): 6-1 To lose 121 games (to set a modern major league record): 3-4 Current pace: 122 losses The Tigers tied the AL record for losses in a season, with 117, tying the mark set by the 1915 Athletics. 9) Today's schedule-- AL Orioles (Jason Johnson) at Redsox (Jeff Suppan), 7:05 Devil Rays (Rob Bell) at BlueJays (Roy Halladay), 7:05 Tigers (Gary Knotts) at Royals (Paul Abbot), 8:05 Yankees (David Wells) at Whitesox (Bartolo Colon), 8:05 Mariners (Jamie Moyer) at Angels (Jarrod Washburn), 10:05 Rangers (Tony Mounce) at A's (Barry Zito), 10:05 NL Marlins (Mark Redman) at Braves (Mike Hampton), 7:35 Giants (Jerome Williams) at Astros (Ron Villone), 8:05 Dodgers (Odalis Perez) at Padres (Mike Bynum), 10:05 10) Yesterday's HRs-- Alex Rodriguez--#47 Jim Thome--#44 Richie Sexson--#42 Carlos Delgado--#36 Alfonso Soriano--#34 Jeromy Burnitz--#30 Chipper Jones--#27 Aramis Ramirez--#25 & #26 Mark Teixeira--#25 Lance Berkman--#24 Adrian Beltre--#22 Rondell White--#21 Brian Giles--#19 Shawn Green--#18 Shea Hillenbrand--#18 Wil Cordero--#16 Michael Young--#14 Larry Walker--#14 Keith Ginter--#14 Robin Ventura--#14 Jeff DaVanon--#12 Mark Ellis--#9 Sean Burroughs--#7 Aaron Rowand--#6 Bill Hall--#5 Rene Reyes--#2 So Taguchi--#2 Todd Linden--#1 11) HR leaders-- AL 1) Alex Rodriguez--47* 2) Frank Thomas--41 3) Jason Giambi--39 T4) Rafael Palmeiro--36 T4) Carlos Delgado--36* 6) Manny Ramirez--35 7) Alfonso Soriano--34* T8) Bret Boone--33 T8) Vernon Wells--33 10) Aubrey Huff--31 NL T1) Barry Bonds--44 T1) Jim Thome--44* 3) Albert Pujols--43 T4) Javier Lopez--42 T4) Richie Sexson--42* T6) Jeff Bagwell--37 T6) Gary Sheffield--37 T6) Jim Edmonds--37 T9) Sammy Sosa--36 T9) Andruw Jones--36 *--hit 1 yesterday 12) Jim Thome passed Gary Sheffield and Norm cash and tied Matt Williams for 50th place on the all time HR list, with 378. 13) Larry Walker passed George Foster into 68th place on the all time HR list, with 349. 14) Alex Rodriguez tied Manny Ramirez for 70th place on the all time HR list, with 345. 15) Carlos Delgado passed Rickey Henderson and Edgar Martinez and tied Tino Martinez for 98th place on the all time HR list, with 298. 16) Dodgers LF Jeromy Burnitz reached 30 HR for the 5th time. After 12 RCAA/.851 OPS and -16 RCAA/.677 OPS seasons, Burnitz is hitting .502 SLG, .306 OBA, .808 OPS, 3 RCAA in 118 games (first 65 with the Mets). He has a .835 career OPS, compared to his league average of .776, and 89 RCAA in 1265 games. __________________ Lee Creator, Complete Baseball Encyclopedia. It's powerful, yet extremely easy to use. Features extensive sorting and stat display options. The CBE has many features that are not available in online and printed sources. Has 2006 stats and daily update service for 2007.

09-22-2003, 05:12 PM	#5
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	no, i know the graph you showed is single-season. i'm wondering, however, whether this is the greatest 3-yr stretch ever. __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

09-23-2003, 10:03 PM	#7
gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	thx for checking! pretty impressive, considering their pitching coach musical chairs...then again, if you have the horses.... __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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