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Old 10-30-2002, 11:46 AM   #46
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On an unrelated note, the state of the NFL now is such that it seems is about five great players (preferably QB, one great lineman on each side of the ball, one good linebacker, one great DB) and a coaching staff with a clue and you'll win 10 games.
new thread material? please start it, it's an interesting observation
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Old 10-30-2002, 02:16 PM   #47
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the same can be said of any player from a different era. walter johnson didn't face bulked up hitters, but we don't penalize him....



there is probably not a good way to word it. Maybe one way to approach this question is defining having a seperate definition for the greatest and the best.

Jim Brown was the greatest running back of all time. Barry was the best.

Jim Brown revolutionized the position. He forced teams into new defences. He broke every record imaginable. He did this while playing in a league of slow footed defensive guys. I would be willing to bet there was not a single defensive player in the league that could outrun Brown. Today we know this is no where near the case. Defensive players are as quick as offensive players, some quicker..... if you don't believe me watch the replay from Sunday nights game where Daryl Green picked up what he thought was a fumble and exploded down the sideline like the other team was standing still (did anyone see that?)

Case and point, Brown has had a greater impact on the game, but I feel Barry's skills surpass those of Browns.

another thing to note is I don't see as much a discrepency in the players today and the players 20 years ago, as there appears to be with players from 1980 to 1960. Maybe an old timer can chime in on this and give us a first hand account.......
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Old 10-31-2002, 12:56 PM   #48
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We've gone awfully far afield here. Time to shut this down and start anew.
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