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Old 08-23-2002, 12:52 PM   #31
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Old 08-24-2002, 11:20 AM   #32
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can we discuss a ballplayer without the HOF entering into the discussion? Quiz was wonderful, unique and remakable. so was Babe Ruth and Ollie Brown and Hal Turpin and any number of others. I think " the Sundown Kid" might be the most interesting baseball player of the last 30 years and he's not going to smell the hall of fame. ( there a great novel waiting to be written based on the life of dan thomas.)

I can close my eyes and see quiz on the mound. He had that sort of impact on everyone who saw him. He made a little magic happen inside your head. compared to that, who really cares about the hall of fame?

Quiz WAS memorable; his unusual pitching motion, his mannerisms, his role on winning teams. These things ARE important, and it's good to remember them.

Ted Abernathy was wonderful, unique, and remarkable. Moe Drabowsky was hilarious, and pitched 6 2/3 of magnificent ball in the 1966 World Series for the O's. Dave LaRoche had a slow pitch called "La-Lob" that was mind-blowing when a big hitter fanned on it. Rocky Colavito pitched in a game and got the win. I watched that on TV. I watched that game. While warming up he threw this incredibly wild pitch, and the Scooter, Phil Rizzuto, the #1 "homer" announcer of my youth, stated "Holy cow, he's got a curveball!!!!!"

Baseball's HOF, however, is more than memories. It's baseball's big honor; bigger than the Oscars. It's an honor to be mentioned as a HOF possibility. It's an honor to be in the same class as the Frankie Frisch Cabal Choices (George Kelly, Pop Haines, Chick Hafey, etc.), guys who few NetShriners think should be immune from the crowbar of Smed.

Quiz has a HOF case. I'm not sold on it, but he does have a case, and some of the poster's here are. That's an honor; to have knowledgable baseball fans propose your induction into the HOF.
It's nowhere near the honor of being inducted, but it's and honor.

For some reason, Baseball's HOF is mega-special to me, much more so than in any other sport or endeavor. Baseball's HOF seems to me (this is entirely a personal perception, although I believe many here may share it) to be a bigger honor than the Rock 'n' Roll HOF, or the Roller Skating HOF (of which my late father-in-law, Walter Stokosa, has been inducted into; it's in Omaha), or even the Hockey, Basketball, or Football Halls of Fame.
The term "Hall-of-Famer" means something in baseball that it doesn't seem to mean in any other sport.

So just to be in the discussion is an honor; that honor I agree Quiz is worthy of. Since others disagree with me, his plaque may hang in Cooperstown someday. We honor Quiz' character by speaking about him as we have here. We honor his performance by speaking of it in terms of the HOF.
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Quiz WAS memorable; his unusual pitching motion, his mannerisms, his role on winning teams. These things ARE important, and it's good to remember them.

Ted Abernathy was wonderful, unique, and remarkable. Moe Drabowsky was hilarious, and pitched 6 2/3 of magnificent ball in the 1966 World Series for the O's. Dave LaRoche had a slow pitch called "La-Lob" that was mind-blowing when a big hitter fanned on it. Rocky Colavito pitched in a game and got the win. I watched that on TV. I watched that game. While warming up he threw this incredibly wild pitch, and the Scooter, Phil Rizzuto, the #1 "homer" announcer of my youth, stated "Holy cow, he's got a curveball!!!!!"

Baseball's HOF, however, is more than memories. It's baseball's big honor; bigger than the Oscars. It's an honor to be mentioned as a HOF possibility. It's an honor to be in the same class as the Frankie Frisch Cabal Choices (George Kelly, Pop Haines, Chick Hafey, etc.), guys who few NetShriners think should be immune from the crowbar of Smed.

Quiz has a HOF case. I'm not sold on it, but he does have a case, and some of the poster's here are. That's an honor; to have knowledgable baseball fans propose your induction into the HOF.
It's nowhere near the honor of being inducted, but it's and honor.

For some reason, Baseball's HOF is mega-special to me, much more so than in any other sport or endeavor. Baseball's HOF seems to me (this is entirely a personal perception, although I believe many here may share it) to be a bigger honor than the Rock 'n' Roll HOF, or the Roller Skating HOF (of which my late father-in-law, Walter Stokosa, has been inducted into; it's in Omaha), or even the Hockey, Basketball, or Football Halls of Fame.
The term "Hall-of-Famer" means something in baseball that it doesn't seem to mean in any other sport.

So just to be in the discussion is an honor; that honor I agree Quiz is worthy of. Since others disagree with me, his plaque may hang in Cooperstown someday. We honor Quiz' character by speaking about him as we have here. We honor his performance by speaking of it in terms of the HOF.


as a sidebar, I was AT that game that Colavito pitched, a doubleheader against the soon to be world champ Detroit tigers,if memory serves.The Yankees won both game,I think
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as a sidebar, I was AT that game that Colavito pitched, a doubleheader against the soon to be world champ Detroit tigers,if memory serves.The Yankees won both game,I think

They did win both games. I remember being very excited because this was around the time the Yankees got over .500 and stayed there for the rest of the season, returning to the 1st division with a 5th place finish in 1968.
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