Jose Guillen for Aaron Harang

LeGrandOrange · 07-30-2003, 09:09 PM

With an OPS over 1 I don't think that Beane would care about patience.

I kind of like this deal even though I still hope the A's lose out in the pennant race. For once, they might have a passable OF now. Guillen knows the AL and doesn't really need to adjust much (although he'll have to learn how to be a really good player in the AL for the first time), and even if he blows as a hitter, he still has a rocket arm. A baserunner kill or two could make a big difference in a playoff chase.

satchel · 07-30-2003, 09:39 PM

I wonder if Guillen will stay as good as he's been this year, or even close to it. He's not just had a career year, he's leaps and bounds better than his career averages. But I remember when he came up with Pirates, he was all hype and potential, and a huge disappointment.

pathogan · 07-30-2003, 09:55 PM

..about Jg, too, is this an abberation...how much more pitching do the A's need at this point, BTW?

cubfan33 · 07-30-2003, 10:51 PM

Guillen isn't signed past this year, so Beane doesn't give a rat's behind what he does next year. He'll be a free agent and some idiot will look at his 03 numbers and give him a Jeffrey Hammonds deal. Beane traded away a guy he couldn't use and a useful guy he stole for something he needed.

Not F***ing A, but maybe a B.

And he ain't done.

sweaver · 07-30-2003, 11:30 PM

Beane is getting the last piece of Guillen's career year, which might propel the A's to the playoffs. After that, who knows what will happen?

Harang is a back-of-the-rotation starter, even at 6'6" more of a control/finesse guy. The Reds also get Joe Valentine, the AAA closer the A's got from the Chisox in the Koch trade, and Jeff Bruksch, an A-ball pitcher.

Guillen was gone after the year, and the Reds desperately needed some arms. Any arms.

SmedIndy · 07-30-2003, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sweaver

Guillen was gone after the year, and the Reds desperately needed some arms. Any arms.

You may as well call up the entire Louisville team up now....

sweaver · 07-30-2003, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmedIndy

You may as well call up the entire Louisville team up now....

They should have flipped the pitching staffs around May....

Skip · 07-31-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SmedIndy

You may as well call up the entire Louisville team up now....

That's what I'm waiting for too. My last few games may well end up watching a 'new' team.

Wolf Hopper · 12-08-2003, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cubfan33

Guillen isn't signed past this year, so Beane doesn't give a rat's behind what he does next year.

Today, as Jose was not offered, we know this is true.

07-30-2003, 09:39 PM	#2
satchel NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 2,600	I wonder if Guillen will stay as good as he's been this year, or even close to it. He's not just had a career year, he's leaps and bounds better than his career averages. But I remember when he came up with Pirates, he was all hype and potential, and a huge disappointment. __________________ Rare mold, old vomit - An anagram rejected by Tom Riddle

07-30-2003, 09:55 PM	#3
pathogan william Blake's Innkeeper Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,828	I wonder ..about Jg, too, is this an abberation...how much more pitching do the A's need at this point, BTW?

07-30-2003, 10:51 PM	#4
cubfan33 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,359	Guillen isn't signed past this year, so Beane doesn't give a rat's behind what he does next year. He'll be a free agent and some idiot will look at his 03 numbers and give him a Jeffrey Hammonds deal. Beane traded away a guy he couldn't use and a useful guy he stole for something he needed. Not F***ing A, but maybe a B. And he ain't done. __________________ UTK available only at www.baseballprospectus.com "I was pulling for Pete and agreeing with (commissioner) Bud Selig that Pete should be eligible for the Hall of Fame," said Giles, now chairman of the Phillies. "Bud was close to making him eligible right after his meeting with Pete (November 2002). Right after that, Pete got into tax trouble (in California), and that delayed the process." - Phillies Chairman Bill Giles in the Dayton Daily News, January 25th, 2004.

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07-30-2003, 09:09 PM	#1
LeGrandOrange Membership Suspended 4/11/04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 3,783	With an OPS over 1 I don't think that Beane would care about patience. I kind of like this deal even though I still hope the A's lose out in the pennant race. For once, they might have a passable OF now. Guillen knows the AL and doesn't really need to adjust much (although he'll have to learn how to be a really good player in the AL for the first time), and even if he blows as a hitter, he still has a rocket arm. A baserunner kill or two could make a big difference in a playoff chase.

07-30-2003, 11:30 PM	#5
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Beane is getting the last piece of Guillen's career year, which might propel the A's to the playoffs. After that, who knows what will happen? Harang is a back-of-the-rotation starter, even at 6'6" more of a control/finesse guy. The Reds also get Joe Valentine, the AAA closer the A's got from the Chisox in the Koch trade, and Jeff Bruksch, an A-ball pitcher. Guillen was gone after the year, and the Reds desperately needed some arms. Any arms.

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