A Real Good Acquisition - Page 2

pathogan · 02-17-2003, 07:52 PM

...did well with St Louis,Amos Otis with KC,Nolan Ryan did well with the halos

clemente21 · 02-17-2003, 08:22 PM

In recent years, I'd have to think that Bonds and Maddux are the two biggest.

If you adjust for the '81 strike, Dave Winfield comes about a half season away. Fergie Jenkins doesn't have enough starts in his first stint with the Cubs, but he does have 115 CG, which to me qualifies. Joe Niekro was a pretty good pickup for the Astros.

Edited because I forgot Wilbur Wood - 240 relief appearances and then five 42+ start seasons before getting hurt, including 49 starts and 376 IP

in 1972. His W/L was bad, but those were some very sorry White Sox teams.

clemente21 · 02-17-2003, 11:02 PM

A few more HOFers:

Ozzie Smith
Nellie Fox
Steve Carlton
Early Wynn (almost, 1 season short of 300 GS)

WiredTiger · 02-18-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by clemente21
In recent years, I'd have to think that Bonds and Maddux are the two biggest.

I think the Cubs letting Maddux get away was one of the indicators that the Cubs weren't out to win a World Series in that time period. They would have been a pretty decent team with him around.

02-18-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by LeGrandOrange
You know, now that I'm reminded, Allie Reynolds was a pretty good pickup by the Yankees. That's probably one you missed.

Can't believe I missed that.

LisaG · 02-21-2003, 07:14 PM

bonds and maddux were free agents, not trades.

best trade was bagwell

clemente21 · 02-21-2003, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by LisaG
bonds and maddux were free agents, not trades.

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Originally posted by Max Power
... But, then I thought, what other player "acquistion" (trade or Free Agent signing) netted a player ...

02-22-2003, 01:19 PM

I think these requirements -- 5,000 plate appearances?! -- are a tad stringent. I know people don't like to give the Yankees any credit for anything but still. That eliminates some of the greatest deals in baseball history. Roger Maris, Reggie Jackson, Tino Martinez, the Bombers have done pretty good on those. They were somewhat significant in the course of baseball history.

Plus there's all those trades with the RED SOX in the 1920s. Anyone who was any good on the Sox ended up with a real team in New York. Lots of other guys, Bob Shawkey won 168 games for the Yankees, including a big win in their first Championship year. Waite Hoyt, Herb Pennock, Steady Eddie Lopat. Carl Mays doesn't meet the length requirements either but he won 26,, 27 games for the Yankees in consecutive seasons. Probably would have won another 26 after that but he was pushed out of the rotation by the acquisition of Joe Bush, who won 26. Dave Winfield, Sparky Lyle, Goose, Chambliss, we've done OK over the years.

sorry for the long post but anti-Yankee bias annoys me.

Max Power · 02-22-2003, 01:36 PM

FWIW, I set the 5000+ PA mark - - and, I've been a Yankee fan for 30 years.

BTW, welcome to the forum.

rcartman28 · 02-24-2003, 11:45 AM

Cecil Cooper did pretty well for Milwaukee after they stole him from the Red Sox for an almost washed-up George Scott.....

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clemente21 All-NetShrine Team Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 461	In recent years, I'd have to think that Bonds and Maddux are the two biggest. If you adjust for the '81 strike, Dave Winfield comes about a half season away. Fergie Jenkins doesn't have enough starts in his first stint with the Cubs, but he does have 115 CG, which to me qualifies. Joe Niekro was a pretty good pickup for the Astros. Edited because I forgot Wilbur Wood - 240 relief appearances and then five 42+ start seasons before getting hurt, including 49 starts and 376 IP in 1972. His W/L was bad, but those were some very sorry White Sox teams. Last edited by clemente21 : 02-17-2003 at 08:37 PM.

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clemente21 All-NetShrine Team Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 461	A few more HOFers: Ozzie Smith Nellie Fox Steve Carlton Early Wynn (almost, 1 season short of 300 GS)

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BronxFan1957 Posts: n/a	I think these requirements -- 5,000 plate appearances?! -- are a tad stringent. I know people don't like to give the Yankees any credit for anything but still. That eliminates some of the greatest deals in baseball history. Roger Maris, Reggie Jackson, Tino Martinez, the Bombers have done pretty good on those. They were somewhat significant in the course of baseball history. Plus there's all those trades with the RED SOX in the 1920s. Anyone who was any good on the Sox ended up with a real team in New York. Lots of other guys, Bob Shawkey won 168 games for the Yankees, including a big win in their first Championship year. Waite Hoyt, Herb Pennock, Steady Eddie Lopat. Carl Mays doesn't meet the length requirements either but he won 26,, 27 games for the Yankees in consecutive seasons. Probably would have won another 26 after that but he was pushed out of the rotation by the acquisition of Joe Bush, who won 26. Dave Winfield, Sparky Lyle, Goose, Chambliss, we've done OK over the years. sorry for the long post but anti-Yankee bias annoys me.

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