Godzilla, or, Junior?

Max Power · 12-13-2002, 11:23 PM

It's now no secret that the Reds are shopping Griffey Jr.

On ESPN Radio in NYC, yesterday, they were polling listeners - who were Yankee fans - - would you rather have Hideki Matusi or Ken Griffey Jr.?

Most of what I heard were people saying Griffey.

Forget the Yankees, say it was YOUR (favorite) team - - and you could have one of the two -- who would you rather have, Matusi or Griffey, and why?

Skip · 12-13-2002, 11:48 PM

Hey ... it IS my favorite team. And I'll keep Griffey.

sweaver · 12-14-2002, 11:32 AM

Me too!

Funny thing is, a couple of years ago when the Mariners were trying to trade him, Junior supposedly said he wouldn't go to the Yankees, because he didn't like the way they treated Senior.

Max Power · 12-14-2002, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweaver
Funny thing is, a couple of years ago when the Mariners were trying to trade him, Junior supposedly said he wouldn't go to the Yankees, because he didn't like the way they treated Senior.

I remember that well. What does his reversal now say about him?

Craig S. · 12-14-2002, 12:24 PM

I'll go with Griffey. I'm hoping this is our chance to see him for a full and healthy season. I guess that's not going to happen, though.

Matsui would be a nice consolation if Junior leaves, but let's hope that doesn't happen.

Gosfgiants · 12-14-2002, 10:40 PM

I'd take a flyer on Matusi. Junior has been dinged alot of over the past few seasons. Is that hammy going to be his undoing?

JamesI · 12-14-2002, 10:54 PM

I'll take Godzilla. I think Griffey is never going to be the 40+ homer player with gold glove defense again. Give the new guy a shot.

LeGrandOrange · 12-14-2002, 10:56 PM

I have a Ken Griffey Junior pennant and several Junior shirts in my possession. Naturally, I picked Gojira.

I think Hideki Matsui would be the better combination of skills and popularity than Griffey...and it'll be more enjoyable to watch him play. And besides, if it were on my favorite team, that'd give us a 4th Japanese player...and hopefully a 5th if we ink Shinjo...

Max Power · 12-14-2002, 11:10 PM

Griffey's hammy and 'tude would scare the hell out of me. Give me the guy from Japan who is a solid citizen and reportedly a great fundamental player.

Then again, I would have taken Joe Rudi over Reggie in 1977.

hmrsf · 12-14-2002, 11:18 PM

Neither. Sometimes a good gambler has to stay pat with the hand delt. Give me Floyd and my deal is done.......well one more pen guy. No more big deals for my team.

Fuzzy Bear · 12-15-2002, 04:20 PM

I think that Griffey is a guy in need of a change of both venue and position.

I think that Griffey needs to go to either Atlanta, Chicago, or an AL team. If I were the Braves, I'd get him and put him at 1B.

A shift to 1B would, IMO, cut down on the hamstring injuries.

A shift from Cincinnati would enable Griffey to escape the team with the worst health record for outfielders of any team in the majors.

Griffey is in a mid-career funk, due to injuries. Yaz had a similar funk at a similar age. Matsui is an unknown. Griffey has been a superstar who needs to play for a better organization in order to right his (IMO) temporarily floundering career.

Skip · 12-15-2002, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Fuzzy Bear
Griffey is in a mid-career funk, due to injuries. Yaz had a similar funk at a similar age. Matsui is an unknown. Griffey has been a superstar who needs to play for a better organization in order to right his (IMO) temporarily floundering career.

I still like Griffey, but disagree with this statement. It's not just due to injuries, but due to attitude, martyr complex, work ethic, and drive - some of which have directly contributed to the propensity to have such injuries.

BigJon · 12-15-2002, 04:40 PM

Personally I'd like to see both. If the Yanks could trade Mondesi and White for Junior, and Juan Rivera im the deal for Colon, the Boss would gladly spend a little more dough to bring in Godzilla. Yeah, it won't happen but I can dream.

I happen to think the Kid makes a big comeback this year. He's working really hard this offseason for the first time in his career. Junior was one of those guys that thought he'd be young forever. Look how good he was for most of career without even trying! He'll have the best season of his career in '03. You heard it here first.

Skip · 12-15-2002, 04:45 PM

If you're right BJ, I'll be happy to give you full credit ... but only if he still has a Big Reds 'C' on his cap. ... hope you don't mind being called BJ, but what did you expect?

BigJon · 12-15-2002, 04:49 PM

It looks like the Reds will end up keeping Griffey. Supposedly Bowden and the Kid spoke and Junior assured him he isn't disgruntled and would prefer to stay a Red. So that career year will probally be under a "c" cap.

View Poll Results: Pick One For Your Team - Matusi or Griffey.
Hideki Matusi	6	35.29%
Ken Griffey Jr.	7	41.18%
Neither	4	23.53%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

12-13-2002, 11:23 PM	#1
Max Power NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: May 2002 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 5,548	Godzilla, or, Junior? It's now no secret that the Reds are shopping Griffey Jr. On ESPN Radio in NYC, yesterday, they were polling listeners - who were Yankee fans - - would you rather have Hideki Matusi or Ken Griffey Jr.? Most of what I heard were people saying Griffey. Forget the Yankees, say it was YOUR (favorite) team - - and you could have one of the two -- who would you rather have, Matusi or Griffey, and why? __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator "They come and they go, Hobbs. They come and they go." That's why there's NetShrine.com

12-14-2002, 10:40 PM	#6
Gosfgiants NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 1,136	I'd take a flyer on Matusi. Junior has been dinged alot of over the past few seasons. Is that hammy going to be his undoing? __________________ It'll always be Pacbell Park Beat LA!!!

12-14-2002, 11:10 PM	#9
Max Power NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: May 2002 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 5,548	Griffey's hammy and 'tude would scare the hell out of me. Give me the guy from Japan who is a solid citizen and reportedly a great fundamental player. Then again, I would have taken Joe Rudi over Reggie in 1977. __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator "They come and they go, Hobbs. They come and they go." That's why there's NetShrine.com

12-14-2002, 11:18 PM	#10
hmrsf forum mom Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: relocation Posts: 4,298	Neither. Sometimes a good gambler has to stay pat with the hand delt. Give me Floyd and my deal is done.......well one more pen guy. No more big deals for my team. __________________ NDF who shares good karma! Get a coaster! My cup is not only 1/2 full it is brimming! We don't need no stinking Arods!

12-13-2002, 11:48 PM	#2
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	Hey ... it IS my favorite team. And I'll keep Griffey.

12-14-2002, 11:32 AM	#3
sweaver Netshrine Cleanup Hitter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Mountain State Posts: 8,883	Me too! Funny thing is, a couple of years ago when the Mariners were trying to trade him, Junior supposedly said he wouldn't go to the Yankees, because he didn't like the way they treated Senior.

12-14-2002, 12:24 PM	#5
Craig S. Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,330	I'll go with Griffey. I'm hoping this is our chance to see him for a full and healthy season. I guess that's not going to happen, though. Matsui would be a nice consolation if Junior leaves, but let's hope that doesn't happen.

12-14-2002, 10:54 PM	#7
JamesI Netshrine Vacuum Cleaner Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Potsdam, N.Y. Posts: 3,723	I'll take Godzilla. I think Griffey is never going to be the 40+ homer player with gold glove defense again. Give the new guy a shot.

12-14-2002, 10:56 PM	#8
LeGrandOrange Membership Suspended 4/11/04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 3,783	I have a Ken Griffey Junior pennant and several Junior shirts in my possession. Naturally, I picked Gojira. I think Hideki Matsui would be the better combination of skills and popularity than Griffey...and it'll be more enjoyable to watch him play. And besides, if it were on my favorite team, that'd give us a 4th Japanese player...and hopefully a 5th if we ink Shinjo...

12-15-2002, 04:20 PM	#11
Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	I think that Griffey is a guy in need of a change of both venue and position. I think that Griffey needs to go to either Atlanta, Chicago, or an AL team. If I were the Braves, I'd get him and put him at 1B. A shift to 1B would, IMO, cut down on the hamstring injuries. A shift from Cincinnati would enable Griffey to escape the team with the worst health record for outfielders of any team in the majors. Griffey is in a mid-career funk, due to injuries. Yaz had a similar funk at a similar age. Matsui is an unknown. Griffey has been a superstar who needs to play for a better organization in order to right his (IMO) temporarily floundering career.

12-15-2002, 04:40 PM	#13
BigJon NetShrine Fan Favorite Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 76	Another Yankee Fan Checking in... Personally I'd like to see both. If the Yanks could trade Mondesi and White for Junior, and Juan Rivera im the deal for Colon, the Boss would gladly spend a little more dough to bring in Godzilla. Yeah, it won't happen but I can dream. I happen to think the Kid makes a big comeback this year. He's working really hard this offseason for the first time in his career. Junior was one of those guys that thought he'd be young forever. Look how good he was for most of career without even trying! He'll have the best season of his career in '03. You heard it here first.

12-15-2002, 04:45 PM	#14
Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	If you're right BJ, I'll be happy to give you full credit ... but only if he still has a Big Reds 'C' on his cap. ... hope you don't mind being called BJ, but what did you expect?

12-15-2002, 04:49 PM	#15
BigJon NetShrine Fan Favorite Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 76	Thanks Skip... It looks like the Reds will end up keeping Griffey. Supposedly Bowden and the Kid spoke and Junior assured him he isn't disgruntled and would prefer to stay a Red. So that career year will probally be under a "c" cap.

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