Choi Waits for McGriff to hit 30

poorme · 09-10-2002, 12:18 PM

"I understand the importance of Choi getting some at-bats," manager Bruce Kimm said. "But I'd like McGriff to get to 30 home runs. Once he does that, then I'll do some evaluating."

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....me%2Dheadlines

Anyone see this as the right decision?

SmedIndy · 09-10-2002, 12:32 PM

I'd like to see Choi play, and if he keeps making statements like this, I'd like to see Kimm fired.

tortured angel · 09-10-2002, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmedIndy
I'd like to see Choi play, and if he keeps making statements like this, I'd like to see Kimm fired.

Sounds like a manager trying to kiss a little player butt to secure his popularity. I wanted to hear a Cub fan say it first, but after what I've heard the last few months, I can't believe they would keep him around.

KCBOOMER · 09-10-2002, 02:29 PM

Always good to see a manager take care of an aging non-productive veteran in place of the future.

rcartman28 · 09-10-2002, 02:38 PM

Does McGriff have some sort of incentive clause or portion of his contract that kicks in at 30 homers ??????

.....no wonder the Cubs never win.

soxfan121 · 09-10-2002, 02:52 PM

This just in from the "Be careful what you wish for..." department: Bruce Kimm replaced Don Baylor.

Hopefully those rumors about Dusty Baker leaving SF for the north side are right, otherwise Cub fans have more fodder for the cannon.

VNV Nation · 09-10-2002, 03:55 PM

I think this "evaluation period" thing is bunk. It basically doesn't matter what Choi does the rest of the year, he should be starting at first next year and McGriff should be dealt/let go.

SmedIndy · 09-10-2002, 04:07 PM

I'd like to see Choi face major league pitching. Any experience helps. Play him every day for 15 games, what's the harm? He's already up and using service time.

SmedIndy · 09-10-2002, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by soxfan121
This just in from the "Be careful what you wish for..." department: Bruce Kimm replaced Don Baylor.

Don't remind me....

VNV Nation · 09-10-2002, 04:15 PM

spitball · 09-10-2002, 04:35 PM

This is just ridiculous. Play the kids and see what they've got.
Who cares if McGriff is shooting for 30, 40, 50, whatever. The season is done for the Cubs. Time to look at next year right now.
It's just plain dumb.

How's bout a new GM for starters?
Sorry smed. I'm feeling your pain.

Alan Smithee · 09-10-2002, 11:34 PM

The cubs big mistake this year was thinking that they were much better than they were. so the brought in a bunch of vets to make a big push to the pennant.
I love irony.

I got to be a cubs fan when I was lving in the midwest so I still follow the team. What the cubs need to do is simple:
-hire a real manager
-Play the kids. Patterson and prior are a start but they need to put hill, choi, bellhorn, et al in the lineup and jsut let them play. dont bench then the minute they go 3-20.

-find a catcher. now.

-stop signing god awful vets like DeShields and whichever 38 year old catcher they are playing this week. Those guys just kill you.

- the rotation is still an arm short. need to fix that.

What the cubs need to do then is: know where they really are and go from there.

Fuzzy Bear · 09-11-2002, 07:08 PM

I may be a contrarian here, but I would let McGriff play.

McGriff is not the problem for the Cubs; he's a productive player. It's not like he's the new Sid Bream or something; he's productive. The idea is to play the kids when you have marginal veterans or guys below replacement value. McGriff is not there yet, not by a longshot. There are regular 1B out there who will never be the hitter that Fred McGriff is right now, at his age.

What veteran would want to play for the Cubs when a productive (key word: productive) player is benched when he is close to a milestone? What kind of respect does that show for the player's career? What does this do for morale? What does this do in the mind of future free agents the Cubs would need?

I would let McGriff play, and hit, which would up his trade value over the winter. Hee Seop Choi can wait until March to inherit 1B.If the Cubs are planning to trade McGriff, it'll look a lot better if he plays and gets his 30 jacks than if he is involuntarily benched, and doesn't.

Husier · 09-11-2002, 08:06 PM

Fuzzy, the Cubs owe McGriff nothing. He held them up last year by not accepting the trade from Tampa until they picked up his pricey option. He's had a decent year and nothing he does this month (short of a felony or an injury) will affect his status for next season.

If the Cubs are committed to hand the job to Choi, they need to play him now and get his feet wet.

SmedIndy · 09-11-2002, 11:18 PM

Productive or not, if you aren't in the race, and aren't playing anyone in a race, September is for the kids.

LET THEM PLAY!

09-10-2002, 12:18 PM	#1
poorme Guest Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,625	Choi Waits for McGriff to hit 30 "I understand the importance of Choi getting some at-bats," manager Bruce Kimm said. "But I'd like McGriff to get to 30 home runs. Once he does that, then I'll do some evaluating." http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....me%2Dheadlines Anyone see this as the right decision?

09-10-2002, 02:29 PM	#4
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	Always good to see a manager take care of an aging non-productive veteran in place of the future. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

09-10-2002, 02:38 PM	#5
rcartman28 NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hudson, WI Posts: 1,408	Does McGriff have some sort of incentive clause or portion of his contract that kicks in at 30 homers ?????? .....no wonder the Cubs never win. __________________ I would have looked out for the water main. But that's just me..... Brett Favre

09-10-2002, 04:15 PM	#10
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	yep

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

09-10-2002, 12:32 PM	#2
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	I'd like to see Choi play, and if he keeps making statements like this, I'd like to see Kimm fired.

09-10-2002, 02:52 PM	#6
soxfan121 Renounced Membership 7/9/03 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Live Free Or Die, USA Posts: 1,335	This just in from the "Be careful what you wish for..." department: Bruce Kimm replaced Don Baylor. Hopefully those rumors about Dusty Baker leaving SF for the north side are right, otherwise Cub fans have more fodder for the cannon.

09-10-2002, 03:55 PM	#7
VNV Nation Membership Suspended 11/19/02 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VNV Nation Posts: 2,952	I think this "evaluation period" thing is bunk. It basically doesn't matter what Choi does the rest of the year, he should be starting at first next year and McGriff should be dealt/let go.

09-10-2002, 04:07 PM	#8
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	I'd like to see Choi face major league pitching. Any experience helps. Play him every day for 15 games, what's the harm? He's already up and using service time.

09-10-2002, 04:35 PM	#11
spitball Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Studio City, Ca. Posts: 1,751	This is just ridiculous. Play the kids and see what they've got. Who cares if McGriff is shooting for 30, 40, 50, whatever. The season is done for the Cubs. Time to look at next year right now. It's just plain dumb. How's bout a new GM for starters? Sorry smed. I'm feeling your pain.

09-10-2002, 11:34 PM	#12
Alan Smithee Guest Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 152	The cubs big mistake this year was thinking that they were much better than they were. so the brought in a bunch of vets to make a big push to the pennant. I love irony. I got to be a cubs fan when I was lving in the midwest so I still follow the team. What the cubs need to do is simple: -hire a real manager -Play the kids. Patterson and prior are a start but they need to put hill, choi, bellhorn, et al in the lineup and jsut let them play. dont bench then the minute they go 3-20. -find a catcher. now. -stop signing god awful vets like DeShields and whichever 38 year old catcher they are playing this week. Those guys just kill you. - the rotation is still an arm short. need to fix that. What the cubs need to do then is: know where they really are and go from there.

09-11-2002, 07:08 PM	#13
Fuzzy Bear NetShrine's Evangelist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Living by faith, and not by sight! Posts: 2,194	I may be a contrarian here, but I would let McGriff play. McGriff is not the problem for the Cubs; he's a productive player. It's not like he's the new Sid Bream or something; he's productive. The idea is to play the kids when you have marginal veterans or guys below replacement value. McGriff is not there yet, not by a longshot. There are regular 1B out there who will never be the hitter that Fred McGriff is right now, at his age. What veteran would want to play for the Cubs when a productive (key word: productive) player is benched when he is close to a milestone? What kind of respect does that show for the player's career? What does this do for morale? What does this do in the mind of future free agents the Cubs would need? I would let McGriff play, and hit, which would up his trade value over the winter. Hee Seop Choi can wait until March to inherit 1B.If the Cubs are planning to trade McGriff, it'll look a lot better if he plays and gets his 30 jacks than if he is involuntarily benched, and doesn't.

09-11-2002, 08:06 PM	#14
Husier NetShrine All-Star Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 112	Fuzzy, the Cubs owe McGriff nothing. He held them up last year by not accepting the trade from Tampa until they picked up his pricey option. He's had a decent year and nothing he does this month (short of a felony or an injury) will affect his status for next season. If the Cubs are committed to hand the job to Choi, they need to play him now and get his feet wet.

09-11-2002, 11:18 PM	#15
SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	Productive or not, if you aren't in the race, and aren't playing anyone in a race, September is for the kids. LET THEM PLAY!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Choi injury	nyy26wc	Around The Majors Reports	1	06-08-2003 01:34 PM