No Ordinary Foulke

Crash Course · 11-09-2004, 10:55 AM

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1999-2004

GAMES FINISHED >= 150

RSAA                           RSAA      GF     
1    Keith Foulke                134      321   
2    Mariano Rivera              109      353   
3    Armando Benitez              85      334   
4    Billy Wagner                 83      298   
5    John Smoltz                  73      204   
T6   Octavio Dotel                60      151   
T6   Byung-Hyun Kim               60      187   
8    Troy Percival                52      292   
9    Eddie Guardado               51      232   
10   Trevor Hoffman               50      278

Since 1999, Foulke has been the best RP in the majors, by far. How did the Chisox and Oakland let him go? Was it all just over $?

Jim Rice · 11-09-2004, 11:25 AM

It was a money thing in Oakland. But in Chicago, I believe they wanted more of a classic strikeout guy to close, so they moved him to a setup role, then essentially traded him straight up for Billy Koch. Yikes.

Crash Course · 11-09-2004, 11:45 AM

How a GM makes a move like that, and keeps his job, is amazing.

IIRC, was it just the Sox and Oakland that were bidding on him last year? Were all the other teams with money asleep at the switch?

KCBOOMER · 11-09-2004, 12:01 PM

I am not sure how the bidding went. It was all kind of quiet. The A's didn't really do much to retain Foulke. They knew he was out of their price range. They were thrilled to have unloaded Koch for one year of Foulke.

Jim Rice · 11-09-2004, 12:31 PM

Yeah, if there were other serious bidders they kept it pretty quiet. The Sox went after him hard from the beginning but I don't recall anyone else doing so.

Crash Course · 11-09-2004, 12:40 PM

Betcha the Cubs are kicking themselves now.

11-09-2004, 10:55 AM	#1
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	No Ordinary Foulke Code: 1999-2004 GAMES FINISHED >= 150 RSAA RSAA GF 1 Keith Foulke 134 321 2 Mariano Rivera 109 353 3 Armando Benitez 85 334 4 Billy Wagner 83 298 5 John Smoltz 73 204 T6 Octavio Dotel 60 151 T6 Byung-Hyun Kim 60 187 8 Troy Percival 52 292 9 Eddie Guardado 51 232 10 Trevor Hoffman 50 278 Since 1999, Foulke has been the best RP in the majors, by far. How did the Chisox and Oakland let him go? Was it all just over $? __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

11-09-2004, 11:45 AM	#3
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	How a GM makes a move like that, and keeps his job, is amazing. IIRC, was it just the Sox and Oakland that were bidding on him last year? Were all the other teams with money asleep at the switch? __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

11-09-2004, 12:01 PM	#4
KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	I am not sure how the bidding went. It was all kind of quiet. The A's didn't really do much to retain Foulke. They knew he was out of their price range. They were thrilled to have unloaded Koch for one year of Foulke. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

11-09-2004, 12:40 PM	#6
Crash Course NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 10,070	Betcha the Cubs are kicking themselves now. __________________ Steve, Forum Admin Hit Grass, Win Salad Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking. Just have fun. - Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez, in The Sandlot I've been going to games since August 8, 1973....and on August 22, 2004, finally, a foul ball came my way. I had to reach for it, and it deflected off the tip of my right index finger. Shoot, if I was only 4 inches taller! Have you read The Baseball Same Game?

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11-09-2004, 11:25 AM	#2
Jim Rice Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 783	It was a money thing in Oakland. But in Chicago, I believe they wanted more of a classic strikeout guy to close, so they moved him to a setup role, then essentially traded him straight up for Billy Koch. Yikes.

11-09-2004, 12:31 PM	#5
Jim Rice Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 783	Yeah, if there were other serious bidders they kept it pretty quiet. The Sox went after him hard from the beginning but I don't recall anyone else doing so.

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