Clemens Unretires - Signs With Astros

tyruschen · 01-09-2004, 12:49 PM

Houston Chronicle:http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...rts/bb/2342789

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...But Astros owner Drayton McLane already has given the hard-throwing righthander the parameters of a one-year contract offer...

Would you like to see him come back?

TimmyB · 01-09-2004, 01:11 PM

Unlike many Sox fans, I still kinda like... well... no... respect... um... well...

Oh, I dunno. As long as he's not playing in the AL East, what do I care? The guy still has gas in the tank, so, sure. Let him go so more if he wants. Of course, I'm sure he much rather would have pitched in the Astrodome instead of Minute Maid. (That is what the re-named Enron, right?)

Wolf Hopper · 01-09-2004, 01:12 PM

Obviously, it's his choice.

But, FWIW, IMHO, if he were to comeback, he would lose the respect of many because of the semi-farewell circus that he had last year (as a result of him insisting that 2003 would be his last year).

gyb13 · 01-09-2004, 03:30 PM

a guy's allowed to change his mind

satchel · 01-09-2004, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gyb13

a guy's allowed to change his mind

cf. Michael Jordan.

01-12-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gyb13

a guy's allowed to change his mind

And we hope the new one works

I am reminded of when Clemens complained about how the press was misquoting in Boston and reached a point where they just essentially gave him an 'open mike' to say whatever he wanted......it was not pretty.

He's a heckuva pitcher and I've enjoyed watching him pitch.....I can live without hearing him speak, and I stopped listening long before he left Boston. It's like listening to a rocker discuss his or her music.....

SmedIndy · 01-12-2004, 02:45 PM

He can do what he wants and it's fine by me. In all sports, you're not really retired until you're taking a dirt nap, anyway.

Skip · 01-12-2004, 04:01 PM

August 10-12, Astros at Mets. Guess who won't be there?

But, joking aside, I have no problem at all with this un-retirement. I think he was sincere before, and an unexpected confluence of events (success in 2003, Petitte to 'Stros, no Olympics, etc.) led him to reconsider.

RedSeat · 01-09-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf Hopper

Obviously, it's his choice.

But, FWIW, IMHO, if he were to comeback, he would lose the respect of many because of the semi-farewell circus that he had last year (as a result of him insisting that 2003 would be his last year).

Would seem to fit his character. This is the same guy who said he would only pitch for Boston or for either Texas team. He lost the respect of many then, too.

RedSeat · 01-12-2004, 12:20 PM

Buster Olney is saying it's official.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1706367

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Clemens has agreed to a one-year contract that will pay the six-time Cy Young Award winner about $5 million to play next season, Houston television station KRIV reported Monday.

A source speaking on condition of anonymity said Clemens agreed to a contract Sunday.

And another city learns what happens when you take Clemens at his word.

hopbitters · 01-12-2004, 12:40 PM

Add another layer to the HoF cap arguments.

Roger deserves a lot of respect for his playing ability. As a person, well, he hasn't done anything particularly heinous that I know of, but I can't stand the way he equivocates on just about every issue that he gets pressed on. If you're not sure, how hard is it to say, "I am retiring unless some extraordinary circumstance arises that would allow me to continue competing and still spend a significant amount of time with my family" or pretty much anything other than repeatedly signing the refrain for "Never Going Back Again"?

KCBOOMER · 01-12-2004, 12:47 PM

This is not that big a deal to me one way or the other. He had fulfilled his contractual obligations to all other parties and owed them nothing.

No player is really retired, regardless of the rhetoric, until no team wants him.

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Wolf Hopper NetShrine Creator & Curator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NetShrine WHQ Posts: 6,191	Obviously, it's his choice. But, FWIW, IMHO, if he were to comeback, he would lose the respect of many because of the semi-farewell circus that he had last year (as a result of him insisting that 2003 would be his last year). __________________ Steve, Forum Administrator POSTING TIP FOR THE DAY: When composing a post, think about what you would say if the intended recipient was an individual who was actually sitting just two feet in front of you, in person, rather than just some far away and anonymous audience who only can identify you as text on a PC screen - - and then write your post in that manner. It makes for remarkable and sincere discourse.

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gyb13 NS Omnipresent Brasilian Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Crazy George's playground Posts: 10,903	a guy's allowed to change his mind __________________ Gustavo NDF Moderator Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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hopbitters Inducted Into The NetShrine Assembly of Fame Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: downstate AZ Posts: 656	Add another layer to the HoF cap arguments. Roger deserves a lot of respect for his playing ability. As a person, well, he hasn't done anything particularly heinous that I know of, but I can't stand the way he equivocates on just about every issue that he gets pressed on. If you're not sure, how hard is it to say, "I am retiring unless some extraordinary circumstance arises that would allow me to continue competing and still spend a significant amount of time with my family" or pretty much anything other than repeatedly signing the refrain for "Never Going Back Again"? __________________ all bleeding eventually stops

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KCBOOMER NetShrine All-Century Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Home of the T-Bones Posts: 11,116	This is not that big a deal to me one way or the other. He had fulfilled his contractual obligations to all other parties and owed them nothing. No player is really retired, regardless of the rhetoric, until no team wants him. __________________ KCBOOMER *Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball*

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TimmyB NetShrine's Magic 8-Ball Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the cops speak slow and the air is nice Posts: 2,591	Unlike many Sox fans, I still kinda like... well... no... respect... um... well... Oh, I dunno. As long as he's not playing in the AL East, what do I care? The guy still has gas in the tank, so, sure. Let him go so more if he wants. Of course, I'm sure he much rather would have pitched in the Astrodome instead of Minute Maid. (That is what the re-named Enron, right?)

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SmedIndy NetShrine's Historian Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Zionsville, IN Posts: 10,569	He can do what he wants and it's fine by me. In all sports, you're not really retired until you're taking a dirt nap, anyway.

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Skip NetShrine Vagabond Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 7,866	August 10-12, Astros at Mets. Guess who won't be there? But, joking aside, I have no problem at all with this un-retirement. I think he was sincere before, and an unexpected confluence of events (success in 2003, Petitte to 'Stros, no Olympics, etc.) led him to reconsider.

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