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sweaver 09-03-2003 04:26 PM

Sandy Koufax or Charles Radbourn?
 
Since the argument got extended this direction, let's go with it. Koufax or Radbourn? This may be the ultimate peak performance argument.

SmedIndy 09-03-2003 04:29 PM

Even me, who backs the 19th century wholeheartedly, can see Koufax had a longer and brighter peak. Radbourn did some amazing things, but not for as long.

KCBOOMER 09-03-2003 05:31 PM

I am having a hard time with this one. My heart is with Koufax but Radbourn pitched twice as many innings.

Ytown Tribe fan 09-03-2003 06:01 PM

This was pretty easy for me, since I used the simple standards of rank among league leaders in IP and ERA+.

From 1962-1966, Sandy was among the top-3 pitchers in his league in IP three times, and ERA+ all five seasons. He was in the top 5 in both in 1961 as well, and that was it. From 1964-1966, Sandy was the best pitcher in the league, if not in all of baseball.

Old Hoss was in the top-3 in IP from 1882-1886, and in the top-10 in 1887 and 1890; he was in the top-3 in ERA+ in 1886 and 1887, and in the top-10 from 1881-1884 as well.

Old Hoss had a greater career, by his league's standards, than Sandy, but Sandy had a much greater peak.

gyb13 09-03-2003 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ytown Tribe fan
Old Hoss had a greater career, by his league's standards, than Sandy, but Sandy had a much greater peak.

i agree with ytf

JamesI 09-03-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyb13
i agree with ytf


as do I. But its close...

pathogan 09-03-2003 08:43 PM

And I agree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gyb13
i agree with ytf



...with G :D :D :D

pwdennis 09-04-2003 07:05 AM

Koufax

can you imagine Koufax (or Clemens, Johnson, Gibson, etc) pitching from 50 feet !

sweaver 09-04-2003 02:41 PM

That would be scary. I have them almost dead even, actually, with Old Hoss just a fraction ahead.

Fuzzy Bear 09-13-2003 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwdennis
Koufax

can you imagine Koufax (or Clemens, Johnson, Gibson, etc) pitching from 50 feet !


No, I can't! Koufax . . . ALL THE WAY!

sweaver 09-13-2003 02:35 PM

Fuzzy's back! I'll go with Hoss, who was more valuable for his career and for a single season. Sandy had a better four-season run.


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