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Max Power
02-09-2003, 07:25 PM
OK, seems like a slow day/night, so, here's something to play with:

Today's Big Deal But Back Then (http://www.netshrine.com/bigdealnow.html)

Click, read, discuss, debate. Have a party!

And, yes, LGO, I know - - I need to make some changes in the Gallery.

I'm STILL learning!
JamesI
02-09-2003, 09:25 PM
The comparisons seem valid. Wagner would be better than ARod today, but ARod (barring an unfortunate injury) will be the best shortstop since Wagner when he retires (hard for me to admit).
Ytown Tribe fan
02-09-2003, 09:54 PM
...and then there's today's pitching stats compared to the days of yore.

Can you name the best pitching staff in the National League in the 2000 season? If you go by staff ERA+, it was the Rockies, with a team ERA of 5.26, but a staff ERA+ of 113.

Then take a quick look at the NL in 1916. That season, the average pitcher had an ERA of 2.62. Allowing for differences in era and parks, Pete Martinez is just as impressive now as Pete Alexander was back then, if not more so.
pathogan
02-10-2003, 10:14 AM
...I think they are pretty valid too.The pitching numbers, hunh?
Max Power
02-10-2003, 01:28 PM
I think the point may be missed here - I'm saying the guys "back then" were just as good as the guys today.............

...........that the big hoopla around the "Trinity plus one" at SS isn't as a big a deal, relatively speaking, that some make it out to be.........
SmedIndy
02-11-2003, 09:45 AM
I think the era makes the accomplishments of Wagner and that batch of shortstops even more amazing than today's batch. Just like Pedro and Randy's pitching today, in the 1910's it'd be no big whoop-de.
Ytown Tribe fan
02-13-2003, 05:37 PM
"But even with the better equipment and the better grounds, you have to have more ability to be an infielder or and outfielder today...so in some ways baseball is better now. But as far as the players are concerned -- if a man was a good hitter with the dead ball, why couldn't he hit the lively ball? And if he was a good fielder with the little glove, why couldn't he be a good fielder with a trap glove? And the pitchers who were good then -- why couldn't they adjust to the livelier ball and the harder hitters of today?"

--Casey Stengel from Casey At the Bat, 1962.


What HE said!