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02-03-2003, 10:38 AM
Who were the two players to first go 6-6 in the same game?
02-03-2003, 05:13 PM
This team was loaded. They were managed by a future HoFer and had 5 future HoFers on the team (two of these future HoFers would get there as managers).
02-04-2003, 12:46 AM
Johnny Gooch and Max Carey, 1922 Pittsburgh Pirates.
In addition to Carey, the team was managed by future HOFer Bill McKechnie, and had on its roster Pie Traynor, Rabbit Maranville, and Kiki Cuyler - but I think I'm missing one.
02-04-2003, 09:15 AM
Duque, I think you got all the HOFers. Kiki hardly played his first few years with the team, and he was also frozen out by Donie Bush and Barney Dreyfus at the end of his Pirate days.
The Bucs of that period were loaded with offense, but were always done in by their pitching.
02-04-2003, 09:56 AM
The problem with this is Carey and Gooch were not the first teammates to do this.
02-04-2003, 03:21 PM
The team they played on no longer exists, but the name they played under does by a team that has no lineage to this team.
02-04-2003, 03:36 PM
was this pre-1900?
02-04-2003, 05:09 PM
Indeed it was, but not by a lot.
02-05-2003, 12:28 PM
1898 Orioles (Ned Hanlon, Wilbert Robinson, John McGraw, Hughie Jennings, Willie Keeler, Joe Kelley)?
I'd guess the players were Keeler and McGraw
02-05-2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by gyb13
1898 Orioles)?I'd guess the players were Keeler and McGraw
Right team, but wrong year. You are correct on one of the hitters (Keeler).
02-05-2003, 04:27 PM
how about 1897 then :p
Keeler and Jake Stenzel?
02-05-2003, 04:45 PM
The second player was Jack Doyle, and they did it on 9/3/1897.
Gyb - thanks for getting the first guy. I had no idea on this question until you got the O's and Keeler.
02-05-2003, 04:55 PM
Good work, Gybby and Craig. I was afraid that would be a tough one.
02-05-2003, 09:35 PM
Good question! If I had bothered to visit in the last day or two, I would've gotten that one! :)
Just as a note, I was researching that game a while ago, as the HOF does not list Keeler as having even 5 hits in that game. It turns out that Keeler had 6 PA in the game, with 1 ending in a HBP. Also, in another AB, some sources claimed he reached on an error, while some claim he got on via a hit. The Baltimore paper listed that AB as reached on an error, so he is officially listed as going 4-for-5 with a HBP.
However, Doyle is still listed as going 6-for-6, and as another note, Joe Kelley went 5-for-6.
I'll enclose a copy of the play-by-play from a friend, which came from the Baltimore Sun on Sept. 4, 1897:
From play-by-play in the Baltimore Sun
inning 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th ab-r-h
McGraw out D* S* HB,SB* BB out? 4-3-2
Keeler S,SB* E6,SB* T* HB,SB* S S* +5-5-4
Jennings D,SB* E6,SB* HB* BB,WP,oob 2-3-1
Quinn out? S* 2-1-1
Kelley S* D* S* out? D* S* 6-5-5
Stenzel out out S out? out? out? 6-0-1
Doyle D,po S S D* S S* 6-2-6
Reitz S* out out S,oob? S E8* 6-2-3
Robinson S out out out? out? S,E3? 6-0-2
Corbett FC* out out out? out? out? 6-1-0
Runs (*) (3) (6) (4) (2) (1) (0) (1) (5) +49-22-25
+Keeler AB reduced to 5 because of one HB (in Sun box)
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