Fours Better Than Three

[KCBOOMER]

Okay, kids, there's ONE OUT and runners on first and third. Describe a straightforward simple scenario in which it will take three more outs (total of four) to prevent the batting team from scoring.

Oh yeah, there are no errors, wild pitches, passed balls, etc., no goofy umpires decisions or mistakes such as miscounting the outs.

[Craig S.]

Ok, this one is going to drive me nuts!

[gyb13]

i have no clue whether this is right.

next batter walks. bases loaded, one out.
next batter hits a grounder to third. third baseman steps on the bag for the second out, throws to second. as the ball reaches second, the runner from third crosses home plate. the second baseman steps on the bag and throws to first, beating the batter, 5-4-3 triple play. the run is negated.

[rcartman28]

something like....batter hits deep fly ball to center...outfielder catches ball and throws back to second baseman who tags out the runner tagging from first for the third out after the runner from third has already crossed home plate for an apparent run. Defensive team then successfully appeals to third base that the runner on third left early on the fly ball for the "fourth" out, negating the run......

[KCBOOMER]

Originally posted by gyb13
i have no clue whether this is right.

next batter walks. bases loaded, one out.
next batter hits a grounder to third. third baseman steps on the bag for the second out, throws to second. as the ball reaches second, the runner from third crosses home plate. the second baseman steps on the bag and throws to first, beating the batter, 5-4-3 triple play. the run is negated.

No. A run cannot score on a force out so the out at second ends the inning even if the runner crosses the plate before the out at second.

[KCBOOMER]

Originally posted by rcartman28
something like....batter hits deep fly ball to center...outfielder catches ball and throws back to second baseman who tags out the runner tagging from first for the third out after the runner from third has already crossed home plate for an apparent run. Defensive team then successfully appeals to third base that the runner on third left early on the fly ball for the "fourth" out, negating the run......

This is right! The second out is the catch. The third out is the runner from first being either tagged out trying to advance or by a throw to first before he tags up.

The "fourth" out is the appeal of the runner leaving early from third. A rules note on the appeal. If all nine players of the defensive team cross into foul territory and then return to their positions for the appeal the appeal will be disallowed and the run will count.

[gyb13]

:jaw: